Same way I did. You're big, you fight people, you must be an enemy. No one cares where, when, and how you fight. If your name shows up on any HELP , you're on the list, too.

I'm a commune leader, I get enemied all the time for nothing, but then have to pay huge sums of money to get unenemied. Most of the time, I just stay enemied, since I know it will never matter: I almost never raid, so being an enemy has little effect.

I was a city leader and I didn't get enemied!

EDIT: I was looking for an answer to the Lendren question from Glom, not from you guys.

Seren (Mirami) enemied all Gloms, including people who hadn't been enemied prior to the ceasefire. Glom tried to talk to Sarrasri, woke up to 3 dead Avatars and a dead wyrdling, and reciprocated by doing the same thing right back.

Though Lendren got unenemied without paying a fine once he resigned from politics, so... yeah. Whatever.

I'm not no leader ... but I know the feeling. Whens the last time you ever saw Dugan partake in a raid ... but Mag/Glom and couple of the guilds and Fain/Morgfyre all have him on the list.

Lol reading this reminds me of some of the reasons I was enemied so here is a few.
1. Hugging Rika enemied to serenwilde for some 50k
2. Helped a total newbie who was hit with some afflictions then portaled to celest. Enimed to celest, don't remember that fine
3. Defending the water plane enemied to Glom haven't asked the price.
4. Defending the water plane enemied to Celest

Everybody I enemied was on our amnesty-list, FYI- Everybody I enemied had either had the status lifted during amnesty, or was lingering at our archway immediately following.

I agree that the system is silly, though. Biggest thing I don't like about it is that most orgs have tradebans with enemies, and most of the rich people in the basin are enemied, except for Lendren/Richter/etc.

I would support a two-tier system, though- one for the guards, and one for tradebans/etc. That would be good.

There were any number of people who were order-enemied by you who hadn't been order-enemied prior, as part of the blanket enemyings. If you only did people who were on the amnesty list, this choice of yours at least left the impression that you were blanket enemying everyone.

By admission of everyone in an Order, enemying to an Order has nothing at all to do whether you are an enemy of anywhere else. Orders enemy because they want to hit you with shrine effects, period. If you are at war with a place, they WILL enemy you to their Orders. Viravain and Nocht did it too.

Mass-blanket-enemying is mass-blanket-enemying, period. That whole thing was a pretty big sign that Serenwilde wanted war-- by your very own reasoning here, too.

Yeah, I was enemied to Eventru's Order by Narsrim because I was defending inside Serenwilde from his raid. I messaged Ilyarin about it but got not response.

Enemying fines are ridiculous for any org that takes RP seriously.

"How can I get myself unenemied?"

"Weell....I could use a new couch...maybe you spot me a few hundred, eh?"

"WTF!"

Will unenemy to EG for db.

Whatno.

Deaths or bust.

You heard the man, you're going to have to "die"

I was demented when i could think that I could go ignoring my noble guild laws and get away with it. For shame! Pah, I should have known better. Zoinks.

Even Sojiro had to die.

Twice!

To be honest, I'd rather have to pay a bunch of gold then to have to farm for essence. Essence is a pain in the ass. Especially when you are enemied to places, so you can get jumped while trying to grind up the essence for unenemying.

I wasn't defending, I wasn't even logged in during the incidents in question. I hadn't even defended in days, maybe weeks, or for that matter in months if you don't count ineffectual zaps. At the time of the enemying, I was empowering dryads. And I was never even involved in politics in the first place. Apparently some people believe minister of culture counts as politics, which probably says something about what some people think constitutes culture, or politics, or something. I'm not interested enough to find the joke/insult/pun/surrealism/whatever is to be had there. (Casilu, do the honors?)

Anyway, the thing about enemying is not the point. This is the trap I always drag myself into. If I try to explain a point like this without an example, most people don't get it, but if I do use an example, most people think the example is the point and I'm complaining about the effect it has on me, even though it almost never has any. (For instance, the Glom enemying had none except that for a few days I was worried I couldn't buy enough wood to fulfill Everiine's artisan order if he ever got back to me on it. But Kaguya restocked, and Everiine never did get back to me, so it ended up having no real effect.)

I've complained about issues on this scale this four or five times before this in Lusternia's history. Each time, my concerns were misunderstood or dismissed. (I blame myself: I am a good writer but not good enough to make these points in the formats available to me.) But each time, eventually, the forum population eventually came to the same conclusion, and more importantly, so did Estarra. They may not have realized it was the same thing I'd been saying, but that's not important. What matters is, even if I can't get people to see what I'm saying, eventually, it'll get independently discovered and, if it's not too late, fixed. Gosh, I can't wait this time.

That's because I can't remember what I ordered! And it's not unusual for me to go a few days without logging on, depending on my classwork load. I'll get to it, honest!

Sooooooo.... what's the point?