Unknown2009-11-06 15:11:49
So I am getting a beast and training it up. What do you consider to be the must have trains for combat? Must haves for noncombat, the influencing things any good, etc? Which suck and shouldn't be chosen? If I go with MajorBreath, which is better Amnesia or Sleepcloud? I'm a Celestine if you want to keep that in mind! Though all around advice for beast training is welcome! 
Llandros2009-11-06 16:15:51
Spitting poison for combat and bodyguard for non-combat/hunting.
neither of the major breaths are that good unless you can put people to sleep to stack with sleepcloud.
neither of the major breaths are that good unless you can put people to sleep to stack with sleepcloud.
Unknown2009-11-06 17:05:15
Thanks Llandros! Now that I think of it I actually do have sleep in cosmic, not sure if thats enough to make sleepcloud worth it though, its certainly not anything like what a dreamweaver has. How are reflection and hypnoticgaze?
Razenth2009-11-06 17:10:20
I'd actually grab sleepcloud. Since we can't dominate we can't do anything about metawake, but against everything else its sexy, cause we got vapors to do masking.
Lehki2009-11-06 17:12:07
QUOTE (SheiaSilverwing @ Nov 6 2009, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Llandros! Now that I think of it I actually do have sleep in cosmic, not sure if thats enough to make sleepcloud worth it though, its certainly not anything like what a dreamweaver has. How are reflection and hypnoticgaze?
Even for a dreamweaver, there's much better choices then sleepcloud. Make sure you spend some trains on armor, makes the beast much tankier.
Unknown2009-11-06 17:12:13
I find reflection and hypnotic gaze very useful. Bodyguard is pretty darned good for hunting, too. I want to add trample when I can afford it, and eventually more breath attacks (probably sleep cloud first).
For influencing, you should get regenerate ego, heal ego, and whatever types of influencing you use most often.
For influencing, you should get regenerate ego, heal ego, and whatever types of influencing you use most often.
Tervic2009-11-06 17:41:16
QUOTE (SheiaSilverwing @ Nov 6 2009, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Llandros! Now that I think of it I actually do have sleep in cosmic, not sure if thats enough to make sleepcloud worth it though, its certainly not anything like what a dreamweaver has. How are reflection and hypnoticgaze?
Reflection and bodyguard are fantastic for bashing.
If you chain sleepcloud with abjure sleep, sleepcloud will break insomnia and cause sleep to go through. Metawake/kafe still messes that up though, so I'd bet that there are more efficient alternatives.
Here's my breakdown (for a custom beast):
(Phoenix)
(Regenerate Mana)
(Regenerate Ego)
(Influence Begging)
(Breathe Psionicblast)
Bodyguard
Cast Hypnoticgaze
Cast Reflection
Influence Empower
Heal Health
Heal Mana
The ones I use most often: Bodyguard, reflection, heal health/mana. I guess I use the influence ones a lot too, but they're passives. I plan to get armor as an inherent once I can afford it, but that's coming after retrieval/delivery, 'cause those are more fun.
Unknown2009-11-06 18:45:55
These are the ones I know about firsthand so far:
CODE
| Ozuye, the enormous dragonfly ----------------------------------- #35013|
| Sex    : Male                      Birthday  : 24th Roarkian 233        |
| Status : Healthy                  Age      : 16 years old            |
| Fees  : Prepaid for 0 months      Loyal To  : Iasmos                  |
| Stable : The Stables of the Green Hand                                  |
| Locale : The Serenwilde Forest (the Prime Material Plane)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
|------------------------------------------------------------------ VITALS|
| Health : 11300/11300              Body Trains    : 320/320            |
| Mana  : 12500/12500              Mind Trains    : 400/400            |
| Ego    : 7700/7700                Spirit Trains  : 80/80              |
| Poison : Secret (10 doses)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
|-------------------------------------------------------------- EXPERIENCE|
| Level  : 13 ( 0%)                                                      |
|------------------------------------------------------- TRAINED ABILITIES|
| (Mount)                            Gallop                              |
| Regenerate Health                  Regenerate Mana                    |
| Battle                              Thicken Hide                        |
| (Fly)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Regenerate Ego)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| Bodyguard                          (Chameleon)                        |
| (Breathe Gas)                      Cast Hypnoticgaze                  |
| Cast Reflection                    (Influence Begging)                |
| (Influence Seduction)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Influence Empower)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| (Influence Weaken)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Influence Paranoid)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| (Heal Health)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Heal Ego)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| (Phoenix)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Spit Poison)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Sex    : Male                      Birthday  : 24th Roarkian 233        |
| Status : Healthy                  Age      : 16 years old            |
| Fees  : Prepaid for 0 months      Loyal To  : Iasmos                  |
| Stable : The Stables of the Green Hand                                  |
| Locale : The Serenwilde Forest (the Prime Material Plane)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
|------------------------------------------------------------------ VITALS|
| Health : 11300/11300              Body Trains    : 320/320            |
| Mana  : 12500/12500              Mind Trains    : 400/400            |
| Ego    : 7700/7700                Spirit Trains  : 80/80              |
| Poison : Secret (10 doses)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
|-------------------------------------------------------------- EXPERIENCE|
| Level  : 13 ( 0%)                                                      |
|------------------------------------------------------- TRAINED ABILITIES|
| (Mount)                            Gallop                              |
| Regenerate Health                  Regenerate Mana                    |
| Battle                              Thicken Hide                        |
| (Fly)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Regenerate Ego)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| Bodyguard                          (Chameleon)                        |
| (Breathe Gas)                      Cast Hypnoticgaze                  |
| Cast Reflection                    (Influence Begging)                |
| (Influence Seduction)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Influence Empower)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| (Influence Weaken)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Influence Paranoid)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| (Heal Health)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Heal Ego)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| (Phoenix)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (Spit Poison)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Zallafar2009-11-06 22:52:31
For combat, Heal Health and Heal Mana are crucial the way a Scroll of Healing and sparkleberries are. Getting low on ego never seems to be an issue for me, though maybe it is for some people.
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