This joker/jester thing is confusing. Anyway let's get a bandwagon you non-voting people. We can get the inactives while cleaning up.

Okay. Shiri's word is my command!

Vote Xavius

Personally, I suspect he really is a jester. Nobody would rhyme that much for that long without being forced to. However, lynching a jester isn't necessarily bad, as long as nobody nightkills the other one... :/

Vote: Xavius

Currently Xavius is at 7 votes ( if I added it up correctly ). He is one away from being lynched, 8 votes are needed. Are we sure this is where we want to go. If it does turn out he is one of the trio, we need to make sure one of the other two get lynched first and not nightkilled.

We'd only need to make sure the first of the other two was lynched, really. If two are lynched before the third is found, they can't win.

No, I've been scum the whole time. No reason for me to rhyme!

Unvote: Xavius

Don't want to kill him unless this is what we really, really want. I'm having some second thoughts, myself.

Well, I've already given my input, it's highly unlikely that he's a jester because we don't have a Sham and a Bo around.

I didn't see any other role that would benefit from being lynched, so I'm not sure what to make from Xavius' consistent voting for himself. I would have thought if he was not ro sham bo that he would have come clean when he was 1-2 votes away. But he hasn't added anything to the conversation.

The only other thing I can think of, if he is ro sham or bo is that they for some weird reason count as vanilla. In which case it's very possible that all three already exist. After all, it's not that they have special powers - so in essence they are vanilla. It's just that they benefit from dying.

I just don't see any way he could be telling the truth with the game set out the way it is. It should be easy enough to lynch the other two given that they have to post in rhymes.
Also, Xavius is one of the few people i wouldn't be surprised for him to pull such a gutsy bluff.

Vote Xavius

See rule 17.

Problem with rule 17 is that Xavius IS rhyming.

So while perhaps Sham doesn't have to rhyme, it would be entirely strange if Bo doesn't have to rhyme.

Besides, I still think that if Xavius turns out to be telling the truth our likely next jester would be Sadhyrda.

Also at this point Xavius, if Xavius is bluffing he has to continue the bluff even if he doesn't want to anymore.

I disagree with you about the Sadhyra bit.

The thing with rule 17 is it's POSSIBLE. All of them could have to rhyme, or none of them, or any combination in the middle. Assuming that at least one, or even two(!) has to rhyme would be guessing the mod, and this is a Casilu game. Do you really want to chance that?

Xavius is claiming, either directly or indirectly that atleast 1 of them has to rhyme.

Additionally, I don't see a line saying that the Jesters know who each other are, but then, that's also guessing the mod.

Of course he is, he's rhyming.

However, there is no indication whatsoever that he would know whether the other two have to rhyme or not, or that he even knows who they are.

Except for the fact that he claimed that Casilu accidently sent him two messages, and one of them was to the wrong person.

I don't remember him saying anything like that at all. He said he got two messages, but he never said it was an accident, nor did he say that one was for another person.

It's all a lie, I swear. I'm scum! Lynch me, I don't care.

Fine.

Vote: Xavius

That should be 8.