Kiradawea2009-11-09 05:43:43
That's just it. I don't know of any dialect in which role and null can be said to rhyme.
Fern2009-11-09 05:44:09
QUOTE (Sadhyra @ Nov 9 2009, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, meant to add - if someone tries to convert you, now, what do you turn into? ANOTHER ghost? And then your trio pops up because you've been converted, but you're something else, so by design the trio can't win? Makes no sense.
I think it means, if a conversion results in Ro, the next two conversions will result in Sham and Bo.
If I'm understanding this correctly.
Xavius2009-11-09 05:45:08
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Nov 8 2009, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's just it. I don't know of any dialect in which role and null can be said to rhyme.
To your nitpick, I toss you old crust. When I mod the next game, rhyme you all must.
Fern2009-11-09 05:46:51
(continuing the thought from my last post)
Which meeeeeeans, Night 0 we had 15 vanillas and 2 non-vanillas. And Xavius got converted, thus giving us the 14/3 we have now.
Make sense to anybody else?
Which meeeeeeans, Night 0 we had 15 vanillas and 2 non-vanillas. And Xavius got converted, thus giving us the 14/3 we have now.
Make sense to anybody else?
Kiradawea2009-11-09 05:51:15
Isn't that what I tried to say earlier? 
But yes I agree. Casilu probably throws a dice when the converters convert, and it came up to Ghost something and Ro, alternatively both tried to convert Xavius.
But yes I agree. Casilu probably throws a dice when the converters convert, and it came up to Ghost something and Ro, alternatively both tried to convert Xavius.
Xavius2009-11-09 05:52:51
QUOTE (Fern @ Nov 8 2009, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Xavius, are you saying you got converted already, or that the role you have is the one that Casilu gave you at the start?
Quoting the mod is a sin not quickly forgiven, but the truth of the matter is far from a given. I was told I was one, but then was another, but begged for forgiveness from me and my mother. Thus I confess that I do not know if the two roles I got were a mistake or a show.
Daganev2009-11-09 05:54:44
QUOTE (Fern @ Nov 8 2009, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it means, if a conversion results in Ro, the next two conversions will result in Sham and Bo.
If I'm understanding this correctly.
If I'm understanding this correctly.
Thats how I understand it too. Which means you lynch Xavius now, and then lynch the next person to start rhyming tommorow, and we can then not worry about the whole Jester trio winning thing.
And if they are smart, nobody will night-kill tonight.
Daganev2009-11-09 05:55:55
QUOTE (Xavius @ Nov 8 2009, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quoting the mod is a sin not quickly forgiven, but the truth of the matter is far from a given. I was told I was one, but then was another, but begged for forgiveness from me and my mother. Thus I confess that I do not know if the two roles I got were a mistake or a show.
Sounds like both ghosts tried to convert you
Unknown2009-11-09 05:59:37
Yeah, I'm under the impression that the people don't have hidden roles - rather what people are converted to is determined either by things like the ro/sham/bo's order or by random chance.
Dag's idea is smart - lynch the rhymers. Plus, he's starting to remind me of those harlequins from the Wayfaire.
Vote: Xavius
Dag's idea is smart - lynch the rhymers. Plus, he's starting to remind me of those harlequins from the Wayfaire.
Vote: Xavius
Unknown2009-11-09 06:19:03
WAIT.
Vote: nobody
It only says on the first one that he has to rhyme. The other ones don't say that (or maybe she just omitted it?).
Vote: nobody
It only says on the first one that he has to rhyme. The other ones don't say that (or maybe she just omitted it?).
Kiradawea2009-11-09 06:23:18
QUOTE
Ro: Ro, Sham, Bo. Jester trio. If one is converted, the next two conversions will yield the other two.
To win, one of you has to be nightkilled, one has to be lynched, and the last can go either way.
(Note on these three: before the last one that can go either way,
there has to be the lynch and then the NK, if the first two get lynched, it's over.)
Sham: Ro, Sham, Bo. Jester trio. If one is converted, the next two conversions will yield the other two.
To win, one of you has to be nightkilled, one has to be lynched, and the last can go either way.
Bo: Ro, Sham, Bo. Jester trio. If one is converted, the next two conversions will yield the other two.
To win, one of you has to be nightkilled, one has to be lynched, and the last can go either way.
To win, one of you has to be nightkilled, one has to be lynched, and the last can go either way.
(Note on these three: before the last one that can go either way,
there has to be the lynch and then the NK, if the first two get lynched, it's over.)
Sham: Ro, Sham, Bo. Jester trio. If one is converted, the next two conversions will yield the other two.
To win, one of you has to be nightkilled, one has to be lynched, and the last can go either way.
Bo: Ro, Sham, Bo. Jester trio. If one is converted, the next two conversions will yield the other two.
To win, one of you has to be nightkilled, one has to be lynched, and the last can go either way.
All of em need to rhyme.
Fern2009-11-09 06:29:12
actually, above the roles, she states that stuff in brackets in the roles may or may not actually be a part of the role. So Ro/Sham/Bo may not actually have to rhyme, which means it's not a tell, necessarily.
Unknown2009-11-09 06:30:17
Oh, duh. It was on the right hand side of the quotebox. Sorry, the pagewidth was too long and I didn't see it. >_<
Vote: Xavius
Vote: Xavius
Daganev2009-11-09 06:30:59
QUOTE (Fern @ Nov 8 2009, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
actually, above the roles, she states that stuff in brackets in the roles may or may not actually be a part of the role. So Ro/Sham/Bo may not actually have to rhyme, which means it's not a tell, necessarily.
where does it say that?
Kiradawea2009-11-09 06:38:54
Actually, Fern is right. Rule 15. Probably for this very reason so that it won't be utterly miserable to be Sham and Bo.
Fern2009-11-09 06:58:13
I say we refrain from lynching Xavius for now. In fact, I almost recommend not killing him at all, because I'm pretty sure that, if he is in fact Ro Sham or Bo, that he's going to be the only one rhyming. Killing him off now only increases the chances of the jokers winning, not lowers it, untill we can definitively point at two of them and eliminate them properly.
Xavius2009-11-09 07:12:46
It seems that brackets hold all post restrictions in check to give Casi an out with imbalance on deck.
Crisis averted, the rhymes in refrain, but you'll still all be rhyming in the next game.
Not my job to help, but help I will give. Bali knows too much to be left to live.
Crisis averted, the rhymes in refrain, but you'll still all be rhyming in the next game.
Not my job to help, but help I will give. Bali knows too much to be left to live.
Kiradawea2009-11-09 07:43:43
What makes you so certain about that?
Except his one post that is in itself kinda wonky. But I don't want a repeat of the Misc mafia.
Except his one post that is in itself kinda wonky. But I don't want a repeat of the Misc mafia.
Tervic2009-11-09 08:05:16
QUOTE (Aerotan @ Nov 8 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that's so, how are the mafia going to be converted in the first place?
QUOTE (Zynna @ Nov 8 2009, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are a lot of roles that start vanilla and then changes to no one knows what. So I'm guessing we'll see our bad guys come from that.
QUOTE (Tekora @ Nov 8 2009, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, I have a hunch.
Vote: Tervic
His 3 Ghostbuster idea makes no sense. The Ghostbusters are town. If they're town and everyone else is vanilla town, then that would mean that the game's over. Town wins.
I'm much more willing to believe that the 3 non-vanilla right now are Viggo, Gozer and Ivo, as they are all conversion roles. And I'm willing to guess that Tervic is one of those three.
Vote: Tervic
His 3 Ghostbuster idea makes no sense. The Ghostbusters are town. If they're town and everyone else is vanilla town, then that would mean that the game's over. Town wins.
I'm much more willing to believe that the 3 non-vanilla right now are Viggo, Gozer and Ivo, as they are all conversion roles. And I'm willing to guess that Tervic is one of those three.
See the first two posts that I quoted.
Also, read the roles post. There are three classes of player that "autoconvert" (floating sheets, ghost hands, ghost lips). We don't need an active converter. Everyone can be town right now, and we'll still have a game. I suspect Tekora hasn't read the rules.
Logic: The Ghostbusters are 1.) not vanilla and 2.) not conversions. We have 3 nonvanilla roles at current. At least one is a Ghostbuster, almost certainly more are. Since Casilu stated in the initial rules post that there are plural ghostbusters, we can up the count to 2, minimum. Tekora's theory is just abject wrongness.
VOTE: TEKORA
I can't play with someone who doesn't read the rules.
Summary: Tekora's wrong, Xavius is bluffing. Things will get -very- interesting next game day.
Tekora2009-11-09 19:20:07
QUOTE (Lazy Mod)
Ghostbusters- There will only be one set of Ghostbusters for the game and that's you!
You have a 50% resistance to night kills and can capture a ghost with help from your proton pack every night.
You win with the town.
You have a 50% resistance to night kills and can capture a ghost with help from your proton pack every night.
You win with the town.
I never said the Ghostbusters were vanilla, I said they were town. And your theory STILL doesn't make sense.
If there REALLY ARE two Ghostbusters right now like you say, then that would mean that going off the information we have right now, Xavius is the third non-vanilla, him being Ro. And if our 3 non-Vanilla roles are 2 Ghostbusters and Ro, then that leaves us with no conversion roles and as I said before, a very short game. Thus, YOU'RE the one that's wrong and voting for me has only raised my suspicion of you because now it looks like you're trying to get rid of me because I'm on your case.
Congradulations, all your OMGUS has done is solidify my vote on you.
