Ishant2009-11-10 03:31:24
The greathouse and family thing has been harped on for a bit and came close in earlier polls for priority in coding, but I wish to request that something be considered.
As is readily apparent to everyone in the forums, in game and likely in the administration the Talnara have an unassailable lead for I don't know, say the next 50 ingame years, without a Talnara dominated Serenwilde acruing more honour. This is due to the make-up of Serenwilde, even with the Mes'ards, which no organisation can rival. Originally I'm sure the family honour system was meant to be competitive, but as is readily apparent it is clearly not and will not change again for the life of this game unless something is done.
The consequences of this are:
1) The benefits the Talnara's have no chance of ever losing, simply because the d'Murani and Mes'ard just will never catch up. A problem with no reset time.
2) Serenwilde has a garranteed 500 power each year. The other power gains require effort on an organisations' part, and for 500 the comparable ones are winning prestige and having the largest library or even winning a village.
If a simple reset time could be set up the system would at least be more equitable and competitive for a start, but failing that I would like the admin to consider suspending what is a fundamentally an effortless power-gain mechanism for Serenwilde or removing it from culture calculations. It hasn't prooven the game breaker in culture yet, but it could be highly unbalancing in the future. I urge those who respond to try be reasonable, as I think the problem is with the family system and as anyone who looks at the POLITICS FAMILY knows Glomdoring has no way to benefit from this.
As is readily apparent to everyone in the forums, in game and likely in the administration the Talnara have an unassailable lead for I don't know, say the next 50 ingame years, without a Talnara dominated Serenwilde acruing more honour. This is due to the make-up of Serenwilde, even with the Mes'ards, which no organisation can rival. Originally I'm sure the family honour system was meant to be competitive, but as is readily apparent it is clearly not and will not change again for the life of this game unless something is done.
The consequences of this are:
1) The benefits the Talnara's have no chance of ever losing, simply because the d'Murani and Mes'ard just will never catch up. A problem with no reset time.
2) Serenwilde has a garranteed 500 power each year. The other power gains require effort on an organisations' part, and for 500 the comparable ones are winning prestige and having the largest library or even winning a village.
If a simple reset time could be set up the system would at least be more equitable and competitive for a start, but failing that I would like the admin to consider suspending what is a fundamentally an effortless power-gain mechanism for Serenwilde or removing it from culture calculations. It hasn't prooven the game breaker in culture yet, but it could be highly unbalancing in the future. I urge those who respond to try be reasonable, as I think the problem is with the family system and as anyone who looks at the POLITICS FAMILY knows Glomdoring has no way to benefit from this.
Mirami2009-11-10 03:39:38
The Circle is Sarrasri (Talnara), Tandrin, Mirami, Gregori (Mes'ard), Kelysa (Mes'ard), Everiine. One Talnara. There are more Mes'ards running Seren right now than Talnaras.
Ishant2009-11-10 03:42:38
QUOTE (Romertien @ Nov 10 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Circle is Sarrasri (Talnara), Tandrin, Mirami, Gregori (Mes'ard), Kelysa (Mes'ard), Everiine. One Talnara. There are more Mes'ards running Seren right now than Talnaras.
It counts more than just the guildmaster, as I understand it, so admin and champion too, this is in addition to regular growth, but my point is more the high buffer that already exists between the Talnara and Mes'ard.
Diamondais2009-11-10 03:47:13
QUOTE (Romertien @ Nov 9 2009, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Circle is Sarrasri (Talnara), Tandrin, Mirami, Gregori (Mes'ard), Kelysa (Mes'ard), Everiine. One Talnara. There are more Mes'ards running Seren right now than Talnaras.
Aiyana is GM for the HS, not Gregori, but they both count I think?
Shiri2009-11-10 18:10:57
Biyearly reset period sounds like the best half-arsed solution immediately available in lieu of actually reworking the whole thing, the latter of which can afford to wait till after ascendants!
(I'm curious, how many RL years do we have left to go for our vote to get turned down by TMC? )
EDIT: Though I want to point out that since you incorrectly mentioned it; Magnagora's library gains, for example, require no continued input, they've been top both due to spammed work for ages and will continue in this vein for the forseeable future. Prestige is another matter, though. And, Talnaras don't have that many people in positions ATM, so it has nothing to do with Talnara-dominated anything - more that there was a point in the past when that was closer to true, and no one is going to overtake it for a few RL years.
(I'm curious, how many RL years do we have left to go for our vote to get turned down by TMC? )
EDIT: Though I want to point out that since you incorrectly mentioned it; Magnagora's library gains, for example, require no continued input, they've been top both due to spammed work for ages and will continue in this vein for the forseeable future. Prestige is another matter, though. And, Talnaras don't have that many people in positions ATM, so it has nothing to do with Talnara-dominated anything - more that there was a point in the past when that was closer to true, and no one is going to overtake it for a few RL years.
Xavius2009-11-10 19:05:58
QUOTE (Shiri @ Nov 10 2009, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Biyearly reset period sounds like the best half-arsed solution immediately available in lieu of actually reworking the whole thing, the latter of which can afford to wait till after ascendants!
A rolling weighting system might not be too hard to implement. If totals were kept by year, you could make current year honor worth double, last year's worth normal, year before worth half, year before that worth a quarter, and then it just drops off. You could even make the current running total into one really big "year" for initial implementation purposes. Two IC years is awfully short for the sort of things that honor measures, and if something rolling were implemented, it might even be better to have two year intervals.