Lekius2009-11-26 00:47:49
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Nov 25 2009, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I have a problem with this little snippet of a log, heh.
The little snippet that I totally justified when I CLEARLY SAID, I didn't have the other parts of the log, but they mostly consisted of me running and/or her gusting me around?
And THEN I said "Nienla has the rest of the log and if she's willing to post it as she said she would be, please do." That little snippet?
Gregori2009-11-26 00:48:53
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Nov 25 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I have a problem with this little snippet of a log, heh.
Then move to another thread and don't read it. Problem solved. You are not Glomdoring's mommy and don't have to rush to the forums to troll anyone who posts anything that might be negative about them every time.
Xenthos2009-11-26 00:50:13
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The little snippet that I totally justified when I CLEARLY SAID, I didn't have the other parts of the log, but they mostly consisted of me running and/or her gusting me around?
And THEN I said "Nienla has the rest of the log and if she's willing to post it as she said she would be, please do." That little snippet?
And THEN I said "Nienla has the rest of the log and if she's willing to post it as she said she would be, please do." That little snippet?
I don't think saying, "I don't have the log so that totally justifies me posting a log snippet that doesn't actually show anything" is valid.
The Nienla part came later, long after you were urged into posting this log. At this point, given the lack of reason given, I'm pretty sure that the people who urged you to post this in fact did so specifically to taunt her. You may or may not have, but I can't see any other reason for them wanting this snippet on the forums.
Gregori2009-11-26 00:54:29
Quite frankly... who cares what you think? He posted the portion of the log he had as he was asked to do for whatever reasons he wanted to. Your opinion on why he did it or why people wanted him to do it are nothing but speculation that has no bearing on the matter when he already posted a disclaimer saying 'I don't have the whole log, but I am sure the rest will get posted"
If you really want to see the rest here I will show you.
Nienla drops shadows in room.
Lekius moves
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
Nienla enters.
Lekius drops octave in room
Nienla gusts Lekius out of room.
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
You got the gist of the part of the log that is missing or do I need to keep going?
If you really want to see the rest here I will show you.
Nienla drops shadows in room.
Lekius moves
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
Nienla enters.
Lekius drops octave in room
Nienla gusts Lekius out of room.
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
You got the gist of the part of the log that is missing or do I need to keep going?
Xenthos2009-11-26 00:58:58
QUOTE (Gregori @ Nov 25 2009, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quite frankly... who cares what you think? He posted the portion of the log he had as he was asked to do for whatever reasons he wanted to. Your opinion on why he did it or why people wanted him to do it are nothing but speculation that has no bearing on the matter when he already posted a disclaimer saying 'I don't have the whole log, but I am sure the rest will get posted"
If you really want to see the rest here I will show you.
Nienla drops shadows in room.
Lekius moves
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
Nienla enters.
Lekius drops octave in room
Nienla gusts Lekius out of room.
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
You got the gist of the part of the log that is missing or do I need to keep going?
If you really want to see the rest here I will show you.
Nienla drops shadows in room.
Lekius moves
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
Nienla enters.
Lekius drops octave in room
Nienla gusts Lekius out of room.
Nienla enters.
Nienla drops shadows in room
Lekius moves.
You got the gist of the part of the log that is missing or do I need to keep going?
No, the "I am sure the rest will be posted" did not come until much later. I would also like to see the whole log. Further, I still believe that you (or whoever requested it) had a specific reason in mind for asking for this snippet.
If that is not the case, give me a real reason please, that actually makes sense! Otherwise, I believe the "speculation" is perfectly valid.
Lekius2009-11-26 01:02:09
Well, Xenthos, to appease you. Sarrasri "just wanted to see it." Like she said, and she also requested that I post the whole log - but I don't have the whole log and Gregori did quite a good job of summing what happened in the log I don't have. If Nienla wants to post the rest of the log, she is more than welcome and encouraged to do so. There. Speculation is over.
Did I mention I don't have the whole log.
Did I mention I don't have the whole log.
Sarrasri2009-11-26 01:02:55
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I recently got into a spat with Nienla and a duel happened; Nienla claims it wasn't a duel due to some odd rules that I apparently broke or something by running away but I wasn't about to let someone choke me knowingly. Any who, most of the log is me not letting her release shadows- which I think is a perfectly valid strategy but according to Nienla I'm wrong - and this is where the nitty-gritty starts. Enjoy!
NOTE: I don't have the "me running away" parts that are likely to come up later in the thread so I didn't post 'em.
NOTE: I don't have the "me running away" parts that are likely to come up later in the thread so I didn't post 'em.
From the first post before any responses were made. That wasn't even an edit.
Xenthos2009-11-26 01:04:37
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Xenthos, to appease you. Sarrasri "just wanted to see it." Like she said, and she also requested that I post the whole log - but I don't have the whole log and Gregori did quite a good job of summing what happened in the log I don't have. If Nienla wants to post the rest of the log, she is more than welcome and encouraged to do so. There. Speculation is over.
Sarrasri stated she wanted to see the whole log, not a... tiny snippet of it. As you point out again here...
So, again, I ask what the point is of posting a snippet? When it's not even what was requested, at that!
Gregori2009-11-26 01:05:33
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Nov 25 2009, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, the "I am sure the rest will be posted" did not come until much later. I would also like to see the whole log. Further, I still believe that you (or whoever requested it) had a specific reason in mind for asking for this snippet.
If that is not the case, give me a real reason please, that actually makes sense! Otherwise, I believe the "speculation" is perfectly valid.
If that is not the case, give me a real reason please, that actually makes sense! Otherwise, I believe the "speculation" is perfectly valid.
See and here you come off with more speculation thinking your opinion is actually important. I in fact didn't request him to post it. I could care less if he had posted it. If he wanted to taunt Nienla he should have posted the parts where she cried in tells at him for running, not standing in choke to fight, and calling him a bad fighter cause he was smart enough to move, then tossing out rules after she died like 'You are only allowed to move 1 room!"
Also if you ever bothered to read what is posted instead of your usual read what you choose to read and argue something completely irrelevant you would see that he said 'I don't have the whole thing but I am sure it will get posted" First post. Says it right there.
Note:: I don't expect Xenthos to actually read this, but I obviously paraphrased. He said "it will get brought up" then clarifies that Nienla can post it. Implying that his original statement was that someone who has the information can post it later.
Aliod2009-11-26 01:06:37
If you really want to know the reasons?
Pie.
This was all a plan for Lekius to get more pie out of the deal he has with the dark fates of Bardoon
Pie.
This was all a plan for Lekius to get more pie out of the deal he has with the dark fates of Bardoon
Lekius2009-11-26 01:07:01
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Nov 25 2009, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sarrasri stated she wanted to see the whole log, not a... tiny snippet of it. As you point out again here...
So, again, I ask what the point is of posting a snippet? When it's not even what was requested, at that!
So, again, I ask what the point is of posting a snippet? When it's not even what was requested, at that!
For all intents and purposes...this is the whole log. Any long term fighting, regardless of how short it was, is right in the snippet I posted.
So what's the point of posting, you ask, well, as I said this is all I have. And, as I say for the 3rd-4th whatever time, Nienla is welcome and encouraged to post the me running, her gusting, whatever she has.
Sarrasri2009-11-26 01:07:18
Even though it's not the whole log, I'm still happy with part of it being posted, and will be happier if it leads up to the entire log getting posted. Who knows, it could still happen yet.
Xenthos2009-11-26 01:09:57
QUOTE (Gregori @ Nov 25 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See and here you come off with more speculation thinking your opinion is actually important. I in fact didn't request him to post it. I could care less if he had posted it. If he wanted to taunt Nienla he should have posted the parts where she cried in tells at him for running, not standing in choke to fight, and calling him a bad fighter cause he was smart enough to move, then tossing out rules after she died like 'You are only allowed to move 1 room!"
Also if you ever bothered to read what is posted instead of your usual read what you choose to read and argue something completely irrelevant you would see that he said 'I don't have the whole thing but I am sure it will get posted" First post. Says it right there.
Note:: I don't expect Xenthos to actually read this, but I obviously paraphrased. He saids "it will get brought up" then clarifies that Nienla can post it. Implying that his original statement was that someone who has the information can post it later.
Also if you ever bothered to read what is posted instead of your usual read what you choose to read and argue something completely irrelevant you would see that he said 'I don't have the whole thing but I am sure it will get posted" First post. Says it right there.
Note:: I don't expect Xenthos to actually read this, but I obviously paraphrased. He saids "it will get brought up" then clarifies that Nienla can post it. Implying that his original statement was that someone who has the information can post it later.
Read the first post again. Absolutely nowhere in that post does it say that he is asking Nienla to post it. Instead he is saying, "Don't bring it up and ask me for the rest of it because I don't have it." My response to this is, if you don't have it, why the heck are you posting a snippet that shows absolutely nothing of any relevance or benefit? The only blessed thing in this log was a mis-timed choke. That's it.
There is no duel or fight in this log, it's just a snippet. Hence my objection. I mean, even after all of this, there still is no valid reason for posting a snippet that doesn't actually show anything.
Lekius2009-11-26 01:14:33
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Nov 25 2009, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Read the first post again. Absolutely nowhere in that post does it say that he is asking Nienla to post it. Instead he is saying, "Don't bring it up and ask me for the rest of it because I don't have it." My response to this is, if you don't have it, why the heck are you posting a snippet that shows absolutely nothing of any relevance or benefit? The only blessed thing in this log was a mis-timed choke. That's it.
There is no duel or fight in this log, it's just a snippet. Hence my objection. I mean, even after all of this, there still is no valid reason for posting a snippet that doesn't actually show anything.
There is no duel or fight in this log, it's just a snippet. Hence my objection. I mean, even after all of this, there still is no valid reason for posting a snippet that doesn't actually show anything.
...That's because there was no valid reason for really the whole fight. There was no valid fight! It was running, gusting, more running, more gusting, a tad bit more running and a tad bit more gusting until I got tired of it and she mis-timed her choke.
My "valid reason" is that Sarrasri wanted to see it; and I know you'll come back and say "Well she wanted to see the whole log" but like I said. And I'll put it in all caps and bold it I DON'T HAVE IT there, some underlining for you. Did I clarify?
Nienla, likely has the whole log, when we were talking she said she would "post the parts of me running." I took that as her saying "I'll leave out that I ended up dying in the end." So I posted it for her. But mostly, I posted because Sarrasri wanted to see it. I don't talk to her on messengers or Skype or whatever else you want to use here. So I posted it on the forums.
Enough valid reasons for you?
Gregori2009-11-26 01:14:42
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NOTE: I don't have the "me running away" parts that are likely to come up later in the thread so I didn't post 'em.
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, Nienla told me she'd post me running from her (as I clearly said I did do, again, if you're reading my introduction) so if she wants to post that, please do!
Then you all can give me constructive criticism/bash me for running against a skill that is pretty impregnable/whatever the heck you want to do.
Then you all can give me constructive criticism/bash me for running against a skill that is pretty impregnable/whatever the heck you want to do.
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The little snippet that I totally justified when I CLEARLY SAID, I didn't have the other parts of the log, but they mostly consisted of me running and/or her gusting me around?
And THEN I said "Nienla has the rest of the log and if she's willing to post it as she said she would be, please do." That little snippet?
And THEN I said "Nienla has the rest of the log and if she's willing to post it as she said she would be, please do." That little snippet?
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did I mention I don't have the whole log.
QUOTE (Lekius @ Nov 25 2009, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what's the point of posting, you ask, well, as I said this is all I have. And, as I say for the 3rd-4th whatever time, Nienla is welcome and encouraged to post the me running, her gusting, whatever she has.
Of course none of this will matter to Xenthos.
Xenthos2009-11-26 01:15:36
QUOTE (Gregori @ Nov 25 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course none of this will matter to Xenthos.
Because the first one states that he doesn't have them, so don't mention them.
The rest come up after I raise objections.
Evomire2009-11-26 01:15:38
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Nov 26 2009, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Read the first post again. Absolutely nowhere in that post does it say that he is asking Nienla to post it. Instead he is saying, "Don't bring it up and ask me for the rest of it because I don't have it." My response to this is, if you don't have it, why the heck are you posting a snippet that shows absolutely nothing of any relevance or benefit? The only blessed thing in this log was a mis-timed choke. That's it.
There is no duel or fight in this log, it's just a snippet. Hence my objection. I mean, even after all of this, there still is no valid reason for posting a snippet that doesn't actually show anything.
There is no duel or fight in this log, it's just a snippet. Hence my objection. I mean, even after all of this, there still is no valid reason for posting a snippet that doesn't actually show anything.
I think you're reading way too into this. He's not telling you not to bring it up. He brought it up first. In fact, it's the first thing he did. What he, and everyone else, is saying is that you shouldn't act like there's some vast conspiracy orchestrated by Lekius to point out that Nienla died. Anyone not prone with 800g can rub deathsight and see her die. It's not like it's never happened before
Xenthos2009-11-26 01:18:04
QUOTE (EVOmire @ Nov 25 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you're reading way too into this. He's not telling you not to bring it up. He brought it up first. In fact, it's the first thing he did. What he, and everyone else, is saying is that you shouldn't act like there's some vast conspiracy orchestrated by Lekius to point out that Nienla died. Anyone not prone with 800g can rub deathsight and see her die. It's not like it's never happened before
You're right, it happened. Nor is anyone denying it did. I'm trying to figure out what the heck the point of this log is. And, none of these comments are addressing that at all, they're just all "defending the right to post it." Which, of course, he has-- but I do also have the right to question it as a combat log.
Gregori2009-11-26 01:19:31
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Nov 25 2009, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because the first one states that he doesn't have them, so don't mention them.
The rest come up after I raise objections.
The rest come up after I raise objections.
He didn't once say he didn't have them so don't mention them. He said he didn't have them but is sure they will be brought up. Again.. READ WHAT IS WRITTEN. I am sure you can do that, you are an Envoy after all, you should have basic literacy skills.
Xenthos2009-11-26 01:21:09
QUOTE (Gregori @ Nov 25 2009, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He didn't once say he didn't have them so don't mention them. He said he didn't have them but is sure they will be brought up. Again.. READ WHAT IS WRITTEN. I am sure you can do that, you are an Envoy after all, you should have basic literacy skills.
"I'm sure they'll be brought up, but I don't have them, so there's no point in requesting them" is how it reads, Gregori. Which is, essentially, "Don't bother asking about it because I don't have it."
Which, once more, leads me to "What is the point?".