Mafia: Smalltown FFVI

by Xavius

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Dugan2009-12-17 17:41:13
QUOTE (Silferras @ Dec 17 2009, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Action number one was keeping your vote on and gunning for Kiradawea until it was obvious no one was going to back you up, even though multiple people unvoted with the explanation that they weren't willing to risk losing Aqua Rake on Day 1 despite thinking Kiradawea suspicious. You didn't acknowledge this part at all, to my knowledge, even till now, which makes me think you want to get those votes back on her as quickly as possible by calling out your 'gut'-based suspicions but skimming over her very useful power. Remind me again, did your reasons for thinking her scummy change to anything more concrete, or were you still 'going with your gut'?


Explain to me how having ONE vote on someone is "gunning" for them as you say? Please go back and show me to where I was actively encouraging other people to still vote for her. You can't. The only time I ever even mentioned it was when directly asked. So please tell me how is that gunning for someone. You bring up the fact of her aqua-rake being a useful power ... but yet you keep saying that the doctor should be lynched. How can you have it both ways Silf? We need to save Kira cause of her power .... lets lynch the doctor. Dag has pointed that out to you, but yet ... you still persist. There is only one role to prevent death, the rest are watches and trackers, andd yet you are gunning for that role to be lynched. Again Silf, how can you have it both ways? You can't replace my powers just like you can't replace Kiras. How come your not following your own logic?
Tervic2009-12-17 17:59:16
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Dec 17 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Explain to me how having ONE vote on someone is "gunning" for them as you say? Please go back and show me to where I was actively encouraging other people to still vote for her. You can't. The only time I ever even mentioned it was when directly asked. So please tell me how is that gunning for someone. You bring up the fact of her aqua-rake being a useful power ... but yet you keep saying that the doctor should be lynched. How can you have it both ways Silf? We need to save Kira cause of her power .... lets lynch the doctor. Dag has pointed that out to you, but yet ... you still persist. There is only one role to prevent death, the rest are watches and trackers, andd yet you are gunning for that role to be lynched. Again Silf, how can you have it both ways? You can't replace my powers just like you can't replace Kiras. How come your not following your own logic?


Why would you put your vote on someone if you didn't want more votes to go on them for whatever reason (pressure/lynch)?
Dugan2009-12-17 18:36:05
QUOTE (Tervic @ Dec 17 2009, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would you put your vote on someone if you didn't want more votes to go on them for whatever reason (pressure/lynch)?


At one point, Kira was up to 5. I was one of the five. The other people removed their votes. I didn't. Kira still was the person I had the strongest reservations about. To me, one vote is nothing. It won't get you lynched, it doesn't really do anything. So I left it there. There was no way the others were going to go back to her. We all know it. They already said they wouldn't so she was never in any real danger of getting lynched ... just like with this bit with Silf. I am in no danger of getting lynched. I have two votes. Yet she isn't following what she says.
Daganev2009-12-17 19:14:08
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Dec 17 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again Silf, how can you have it both ways? You can't replace my powers just like you can't replace Kiras. How come your not following your own logic?


This is a good point. If you are voting to lynch Dugan because he is voting to Lynch Kira. Then by the same logic you should be voting to lynch yourself. Atleast on day 1.
Daganev2009-12-17 19:15:29
QUOTE (daganev @ Dec 17 2009, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a good point. If you are voting to lynch Dugan because he is voting to Lynch Kira. Then by the same logic you should be voting to lynch yourself. Atleast on day 1.


Alternative possiblity:

Silf is the SK and Dugan is the Arsonist.
Diamondais2009-12-17 21:22:14
Ack, deadline.

Curious Dag, why do you think Dugan and Silf may be the SK and arsonist? They seem to be bantering back and forth quite a bit.
Mirami2009-12-17 21:25:53
I voted for Dag because I saw him as being pretty scummy/leading the vote-trains, and to try to pressure him to let Kira live so Shiri can undo the arsonist day 2.

That said, Casilu's more of a problem to that agenda right now, so I'm gonna go ahead and UNVOTE VOTE CASILU. If I get hit by the arsonist night 1, I'd rather have Shiri aqua-raking day 2, as opposed to Shiri dead/roleblocked, and myself covered in flamable stuff.

Casilu2009-12-17 21:34:39
QUOTE (Romertien @ Dec 17 2009, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I voted for Dag because I saw him as being pretty scummy/leading the vote-trains, and to try to pressure him to let Kira live so Shiri can undo the arsonist day 2.

That said, Casilu's more of a problem to that agenda right now, so I'm gonna go ahead and UNVOTE VOTE CASILU. If I get hit by the arsonist night 1, I'd rather have Shiri aqua-raking day 2, as opposed to Shiri dead/roleblocked, and myself covered in flamable stuff.


Riddle me this: what does Shiri lose by copying tonight and using the power the next day?
Tervic2009-12-17 21:47:29
QUOTE (casilu @ Dec 17 2009, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Riddle me this: what does Shiri lose by copying tonight and using the power the next day?


His use of AquaRake. He can't copy it again. Do I win a prize? Do I do I do I do I do I do I do I do I? PWEEEEASE!? dazed.gif
Casilu2009-12-17 21:56:57
QUOTE (Tervic @ Dec 17 2009, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
His use of AquaRake. He can't copy it again. Do I win a prize? Do I do I do I do I do I do I do I do I? PWEEEEASE!? dazed.gif


Yes, you win the ability to think. If Shiri is either SK, he loses nothing by copying Aquarake and using it tomorrow. He gains quite a bit, being 'confirmed'.

In fact, if Kefka, he gains a considerable amount since no one can bother him to use Aquarake later.
Daganev2009-12-17 22:11:52
QUOTE (diamondais @ Dec 17 2009, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ack, deadline.

Curious Dag, why do you think Dugan and Silf may be the SK and arsonist? They seem to be bantering back and forth quite a bit.


I don't.

But the argument would go like this:

Silf: Dugan is scum cause he is trying to kill off aqua rake.
Dugan: Silf is scum cause she is trying to kill off the doctor.

If that logic is sound, then you might conclude that Silf is SK and Dugan is arsonist. But I don't think that logic is sound, (not with the evidence we have anyways) so I was being a bit silly.
Diamondais2009-12-18 00:49:16
Ah okay, think I misunderstood what you were trying to say before.
Tervic2009-12-18 01:17:14
QUOTE (casilu @ Dec 17 2009, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, you win the ability to think. If Shiri is either SK, he loses nothing by copying Aquarake and using it tomorrow. He gains quite a bit, being 'confirmed'.

In fact, if Kefka, he gains a considerable amount since no one can bother him to use Aquarake later.


How can I win something I already have? I demand presents!
Daganev2009-12-18 01:26:16
QUOTE (Tervic @ Dec 17 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How can I win something I already have? I demand presents!


Don't have a cow man.

Ok, have a cow. cow.gif
Xavius2009-12-18 03:44:39
Shaddus will be replacing Daganev.

I'm sure Shaddus would like to know that too, but there's that silly PM cooldown. sad.gif
Diamondais2009-12-18 03:48:37
Where did that come from. sad.gif
Xavius2009-12-18 03:49:15
QUOTE (diamondais @ Dec 17 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where did that come from. sad.gif

His request. Nothing bad! Well, we hope nothing bad, but nothing bad in game terms.
Shaddus2009-12-18 04:03:45
-Bumrushes Daganev and takes his spot-
Casilu2009-12-18 04:08:53
I have a bad feeling about this.
Shaddus2009-12-18 04:14:48
Can I get a vote count please?