I could totally stag sacrifice for the area. =o

Or I guess somebody with healing.

the key argumentent in Rika's post being it is -not- the same area.

@veyrzhul how to abuse your idea: Shuyin challenges, I being a member of hallifax am currently an ally of Shuyin's and I go up as a 'opposing force' instead of trying to kill him, I help him while no other org can come up.

Perhaps more importantly, why does the aggressor get to determine how many people can show up?

For the purpose of this to work, only members of the two orgs fighting should be able to ascend and support/enter the fight. What do you mean, Xavius? Both of them can have one additional person up (and both can be the first to send them up). As soon as both do have someone up, those two can enter the fight inside the domoth, but it's also the right of both to not send anyone and thus keep numbers inside the domoth as they are.

As for the passives, I meant benefits the fighters automatically get from the presence of that 'additional' person (of their own org) in the domoth realms, not actual skills of the characters supporting.

I'll just state an example, maybe that clarifies it.

Sidd from Glomdoring is holding a domoth. Thoros from Magnagora is challenging him. (For how this is dealt with in detail, see above suggestion by Romero, for instance.)
(*) Both ascend into the domoth realms and fight inside of the domoth. (For possible winning/losing conditions, see the original suggestion by Vathael.)

Now only demigods/ascendants from Glomdoring or Magnagora (the two orgs fighting) can ascend into the domoth realms.

Celina from Glomdoring ascends. Now Sidd automatically gets some passive bonus, just from her presence (what this could be I'm not sure, but it shouldn't have a major impact; it might also increase with time so that the side with no supporter has time to either defeat the opponent quickly or get someone to support them).
Celina cannot enter the fight in the domoth itself at this time. (It might be a good idea to have the supporter fight something similar or identical to the domoth guardians, too, to make it a bit of a challenge and also kill the time and make up for the essence loss for demigods).

At this point, noone else from Glomdoring can ascend (only one person from each involved side in addition to the fighters).

Ixion ascends into the domoth realms. Now Thoros starts receiving the same kind of bonus Sidd has (but the associated timer starts from 0 for him, so his bonus would be more or less weaker, depending on how quick Ixion was).

At this point, noone can ascend into the domoth realms at all, but either or both of Celina and Ixion can now enter the domoth Sidd and Thoros are fighting in.
Until BOTH are inside, noone else can ascend.
Now there are three options:

1. None of them enters (which means you have one 1 on 1 inside the domoth and one outside).
2. One of the enters, the other doesn't. The person staying outside of the domoth will still provide the passive bonus for the one inside, but of course, the person inside will now face two opponents (which don't receive any passive bonus; the timer for the bonus increase is reset).
3. Both enter (which means you have a 2 on 2 inside the domoth and none of them receive any passive bonus; the timers for the bonus increases are reset).

As stated above, only in the case of 3. can more people enter the domoth realms, so let us assume that happens. Celina and Ixion both enter the domoth and we now have Sidd and Celina fighting Thoros and Ixion.

At this point, we're basically where we were at (*) above. Only demigods and ascendants from the involved parties can ascend into the domoth realms.

Ardmore from Glomdoring ascends. Now Sidd and Celina both receive a passive bonus from his presence. Noone more from Glomdoring can ascend at this point.
Romero from Magnagora ascends. Now Thoros and Ixion both receive a passive bonus, as well. Noone from Magnagora or Glomdoring (or any other org, for that matter) can ascend at this point.
We're back at the three options (although 1. of course means you have a 2 on 2 inside and a 1 on 1 outside now, the numbers in the other options change accordingly).

This can be continued as long as both parties have and want to involve more people. One important thing would be that anyone entering the fight in the domoth and leaving it, either by death or via the portal out of the domoth or descending, is out and cannot even ascend as a supporter again.

One of the loopholes was pointed out even before you went into this much depth, heh.

I challenge, Rika comes up, and helps me kill the mobs. Nobody else can interfere at all, la de da.

Then you have to start coding in exceptions, and... yeah, you're just making more work for no real benefit / gain.

So before you wanted to kill me and now you want me to help kill your mobs? What do you want from me?!

Exploit 2:

Shuwin holds death, and Xiel holds nature.

Hallifax epressed a unanimous desire to claim the Domotheos of Death, and elects Rika to challenge it with 4 votes for, 1 against, and one abstention.

Rika Challenges Shuyin for death, Shuyin goes up and starts opening cans of woopass like a programmer does caffeine the day before a deadline.

Celina goes up to give Shuyin a passive advantage. Doman does likewise for Hallifax.

Celina goes in. Doman does not, he's asleep at the moment. Currently no one from Glomdoring is allowed to ascend.

Celest wants Nature.

Celest sends...umm...

Serenwilde wants Nature.

Seren sends Iasmos after it.

Iasmos challenges Xiel for nature.

Xiel cannot ascend because of the current challenge going on for Death.

Iasmos takes Nature while Doman was napping

Shuyin retains Death.

Death and Nature go into dormancy.

obviously he wants you one way or another

I want you to be confused. It appears to be working admirably well.

Two domoths can't be in play at once.

Ah, ignore me.

If Rika wants to challenge Xenthos just to do whatever with him until the timer for him to win is over, sure (and I understood Vathael wanted that to be in the measure of a few minutes). After that, someone else can challenge him, though. That problem is not really related to my idea of extending Vathael's proposal, I think. Not that I can claim to have thought it through to each end, nor do I really think Vathael's idea will come to be.

ANNOUNCE NEWS #1478
Date: 1/23/2010 at 2:04
From: Estarra, the Eternal
To : Everyone
Subj: Misc Fixes and Changes

o If your city or commune controls the opposing domoth, then you will
-not- be able to participate at -any- stage of a domoth challenge. This
includes the second stage which will throw anyone off the aetherbubble
who cannot participate.

o Dormancy periods for domoths will be random.

I like it, but we found out it's still vastly abusable by Glomdoring and Glomdoring alone.

Glomdoring Zergs for hallifax THEN zergs for themself.

Let's see how it goes before rushing to judgment!

read above, please.

Well, if you're talking about "zergs", not sure how that can help if they can't get into the area.

Anyway, we haven't "found" out anything until a few domoth battles go down.

This has set it up so the opposing city can't help another one if they hold it..but they still can. Glomdoring can win it for Hallifax, with some extra help, THEN win their own.

Still a bit risky if you ask me!

In other words, if one org helps another org get Life Domoth, then takes Death Domoth for themselves, the next time Life Domoth goes into play, they won't be able to help.