so?

And glowbutts are icky.


For the record, I've played trans harmony and then trans stealth. Stealth is more awesome. Maybe not mechanically superior, but ninjas are just too good

Because then they'll destroy us all!!

I definitely think Hallifax is going to have Stealth over Harmony anyway. Gaudiguch is into the whole personal enlightenment thing (they even have a meditation pyramid in their city with a number of monks there) and there are references in the histories to Hallifax's "extensive spy network."

Um, I highly doubt it considering Kephera are allied with Hallifax and use Harmony whereas Illithoid are with Gaudiguch and use Stealth. Perhaps the Guardian Cosmic specialization will have some spy-like abilities or even the Rituals spec in Hallifax.

Partly true. They want to set Illith free, but they also want to gain enough power to become Soulless Gods in their own right. See: Cthoglogg.

This is a very blunt explanation, though. If you want to talk Illithoid RP in more detail, I'd be glad to explain it more, just drop me a PM so we keep it out of this thread.

While anything is possible, stealth is a illithoid monk skill and harmony is a kepheran monk skill so we would expect that Hallifax would have harmony.

In all honesty, I REALLY wish Halli and Gaudi wouldn't get monks and bards. It just doesn't "fit". Especially bards in Hallifax. C'mon. Music is noise to them, most likely.

Hell, the original person who allowed people in the city didn't want anyone laughing.

Edit: Pay me no mind, I got told. I still don't think Halli and Gaudi should have monks or ards, though. Well, they can have bards. I just hate monks.

...Um not so much. There is a Conservatory of Music in Hallifax, in fact it makes a lot of sense to them to have bards with their focus on Beauty and artists.

Really? I've never been there, so I figured someone in Halli might construe it as an interruption.

Well then, disregard my previous post!

They likely won't get them unless the population is stable enough... though another thing

Caste Article I Section II specifies songs, plays, dance and opera as valid artistic pursuits.




Not at appropriate times and places

Personally, I really hope that Hallifax and Gaudiguch can be neutral to the whole undervault. Don't enforce some arbitrary even split on the vault. Let em pick if they wanna help one side or the other according to their own whims.

unless they get their kata specs from a third party, that's only going to last until they get monks, if that long.

Grandmother Scorpion taught dracnari and lucidians an early form of martial art.

With any luck, neither city will ever get bards or monks. It's too much to ask that the existing guilds be removed from the game, but let's at least try and cauterize the wound.

They could get kata from Tosha monestary too.

But yeah. Ideally, neither city gets monks, ever.

Instead maybe they can get new shiny archetypes

I get the feeling that you're actively trying to destroy Lusternia.

I love how everybody whines about Monks. I'm personally rather interested in their Guardians and their Monks the most, despite how long it'll be down the road for the latter. I'm big on martial arts, though, so..

To be honest, that kind of makes sense. Or at least splitting it so that, say, Gaudi gets monks and Halli gets bards, then giving a new archetype to either?

And then everyone will want a custom class, and the bitching will NEVER. Freaking. End.