Anybody any good with Sligh? Do you guys think Dragonmaster Outcast is as good an addition to it as I'm figuring it is?

Or even Zoo?

No idea about the current meta and cardpool but judging it by itself, looks like an average one drop since I wouldn't count on ever seeing that ability come into play. Way too fragile and holding it back in hand until you have six lands in play (quite lategame if you are playing sligh) doesn't sit well with the game plan of the archetype (attack attack attack burn GG).

Unless there's a severe lack of cheap red beef available, I would say that it fits better in midrange Zoo.

Edit: After checking a couple of the current decklists, it looks kind of good for Boros but they already have the 1-drop slots covered.

It looks more like a way to level the mana curve of red control. I haven't seen red control in a while, but then, I only play limited competitively.

Red does control? I thought Red did burn...

All colors are capable of control. Control is not just "you gain control of x." Control is a slowing methodology. Red's control methods are burn and block hindrance.

I don't think of control as "You gain control of X". I think of Control as counters and other similar tricks that mostly keep the opponent from using their better cards.

And I have a couple marks of mutiny anyway. >>

Ever played against AstroGlide or Magnivore? Instead of aiming for a quick win via horde/burn spells to the dome, red control usually takes the form of mass/recursive creature removal and/or land destruction, in the vein of Pyroclasm, Obliterate, Wild Fire, Desolation Giant and the like. Unlike blue or black, monored control is fairly unusual and it almost always requires a second color to generate card advantage.

I like this guy. ----^


Also, all colors do control in some fashion - yes, even green. Black does it by holding down creatures, thinning out hands or picking off selective resources, for instance. Some colors need other colors to prop them up in control compositions, but all of them can do it.

Sooo....it's almost always NOT Monored?

Mono red control is unnecessarily hard to do well. If you want to play red, you usually play beatdown, and if you want to play control, you usually don't play mono red. It's not worthy of mention in any current competitive environment (with the disclaimer that I haven't gone to play Worldwake drafts yet).

There's a lot of nice stuff in WWK for Red, like that RR costed instant that does 1 to a creature and 1 to its controller or whatever, with Landfall making it 3 instead. That card is pretty good, honestly, and has a slot saved for itself in a lot of red/black control builds or counterburn builds in Standard. Admittedly, it could work INCREDIBLE in Sligh, too.

You mean this? ;P

Psh. I'm still undecided if the cheese is epic, fail or epic fail.

Anyway, it seems like a fun thing to combine with one with nothing, balance and disenchant. Could probably win with the correct first hand draw too.

There is only one legitimate color in Magic, and that color is BLACK.

Barren Glory for a very amusing win. It's so rough and impractical, but the right deck could do it.

Jhoira of the Ghitu, suspend apocalypse, suspend cheese stands alone 1 turn later (or have some other way to increase speed).

Bit more streamlined; also, Jhoira is a jerk.

Alternatively, as unlikely as it is, a starting hand of two black lotus, a swamp, OWN and Cheese has you winning on your first round. (Black lotus comes into play untapped right?)

Where in nine hells will you find a Black Lotus?

Learn to read. It's just a thought excersize.