Raiding/Enemying Hijack Thread

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Unknown2010-03-02 13:44:05
I realized it was a counter-point, and I would've given him a low fine to have his status removed easily, at least, but oh well.

I am enemy to Shadowdancers, and recently paid to have status removed with Harbingers. Both were given out of spite by Glomdoring raiders, but I was just curious to know if it had any effect at all. Thanks to Alacardael for answering that for me.

I just want fines so I can remove my statuses without all the drama, and not so I can giggle and raid.

Still, avoiding mechanical status by killing only players would mean the players would avoid that area for a while and you'd get bored, but no real harm would come to the organization. Perhaps an equally frustrating situation to what we have now, but in a different way completely.
Xenthos2010-03-02 13:50:56
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Mar 2 2010, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I realized it was a counter-point, and I would've given him a low fine to have his status removed easily, at least, but oh well.

I am enemy to Shadowdancers, and recently paid to have status removed with Harbingers. Both were given out of spite by Glomdoring raiders, but I was just curious to know if it had any effect at all. Thanks to Alacardael for answering that for me.

I just want fines so I can remove my statuses without all the drama, and not so I can giggle and raid.

Still, avoiding mechanical status by killing only players would mean the players would avoid that area for a while and you'd get bored, but no real harm would come to the organization. Perhaps an equally frustrating situation to what we have now, but in a different way completely.

I actually imagine the following scenario:
Horde of people who aren't enemied, and thus don't get any enemy disincentives for raiding.
1-2 people who are enemied and play around with the mobs until other people show up.

Worst of both worlds.
Kiradawea2010-03-02 14:05:27
Simple question. How much do I have to pay you to take it elsewhere? *gentlenudge* halo.gif
Unknown2010-03-02 14:10:38
Hey, I have to read all your various rantings and babbling. It's not like I do this all the time. wink.gif
Everiine2010-03-03 05:57:52
QUOTE (Lendren @ Mar 2 2010, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Xenthos is an enemy of the Divine Order of Maylea, Bloom of Serenity.
A comment has been recorded about the enemying: 'Reason for enemying: Raiding Etherwilde. Should be unenemied once unenemied to Serenwilde.'


Looks already fixed to me. There's no fine and no additional requirement. I'm not happy about the idea that shrines are a commune weapon (and I think neither are you), but that's the world we live in; the best I can do is to ensure that the enemy statuses are linked and there are no additional fines or hoops.


Um... you might want to read back the requirements for being unenemied to the Serenwilde if you don't see how you've created an impossible loop there.
Shiri2010-03-03 06:04:26
Surely you mean "if you don't see how I've created an impossible loop there." The order had it first.
Rauros2010-03-03 06:06:17
I agree with everything said so far in this thread.
Everiine2010-03-03 06:09:25
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 3 2010, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Surely you mean "if you don't see how I've created an impossible loop there." The order had it first.

My brain is only on half power, so... wot? confused.gif
Shaddus2010-03-03 06:10:53
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Mar 2 2010, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Simple question. How much do I have to pay you to take it elsewhere? *gentlenudge* halo.gif

10 credits and I won't mention it again.
Lendren2010-03-03 16:21:49
QUOTE (Everiine @ Mar 3 2010, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um... you might want to read back the requirements for being unenemied to the Serenwilde if you don't see how you've created an impossible loop there.

Don't be silly. It works fine, and dozens of people have done it. This isn't code written for a mindless automaton, this is policy to be interpreted by thinking, sensible people, which is why it works.
Rakor2010-03-03 16:32:32
QUOTE (Zallafar @ Mar 2 2010, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And a question: what are people's artifact rune placement strategy? All on one piece of jewelry, or each on its own piece of jewelry, or what?

By all means each on an individual piece of jewelry. Runes makes them last forever, so there's less to replace after a break, which for me is much more worth it than creating a single piece of superjewelry. I assume that's why people do that?
Unknown2010-03-03 16:34:59
QUOTE (Lendren @ Mar 3 2010, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This isn't code written for a mindless automaton, this is policy to be interpreted by thinking, sensible people, which is why it works.


My cynicism immediately interpreted this as a fatal, fatal flaw.
Everiine2010-03-04 01:46:41
QUOTE (Lendren @ Mar 3 2010, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't be silly. It works fine, and dozens of people have done it. This isn't code written for a mindless automaton, this is policy to be interpreted by thinking, sensible people, which is why it works.

How have they done it? You can't get unenemied to the Serenwilde until you are unenemied from all Orders... and you won't unenemy someone from the Order until they are unenemied from the Serenwilde (unless that's not what your post says).
Sylphas2010-03-04 01:56:56
QUOTE (Everiine @ Mar 3 2010, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How have they done it? You can't get unenemied to the Serenwilde until you are unenemied from all Orders... and you won't unenemy someone from the Order until they are unenemied from the Serenwilde (unless that's not what your post says).


For the purposes of being unenemied to the Serenwilde, Maylea doesn't count, basically. Our shrines are commune weapons and nothing more, sad as I find that to be. Or at least that's how I'm interpreting it.
Everiine2010-03-04 03:05:03
QUOTE (Sylphas @ Mar 3 2010, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the purposes of being unenemied to the Serenwilde, Maylea doesn't count, basically. Our shrines are commune weapons and nothing more, sad as I find that to be. Or at least that's how I'm interpreting it.

doh.gif

One of these days I'm going to get elected Marshall, go through all our laws and rewrite them so that they mean what they say and say what they mean.
Sylphas2010-03-04 03:22:09
QUOTE (Everiine @ Mar 3 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
doh.gif

One of these days I'm going to get elected Marshall, go through all our laws and rewrite them so that they mean what they say and say what they mean.


Not a bad idea. I just do what makes sense and hope no one decides to nitpick me. dry.gif I'm not even sure I know all our laws.
Everiine2010-03-04 03:45:54
QUOTE (Sylphas @ Mar 3 2010, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not even sure I know all our laws.

Find me someone who does, and I'll find you a purple kangaroo named Mack with a tattoo that says LOLA LOLAA on his right bicep.
Unknown2010-03-04 03:54:04
QUOTE (Everiine @ Mar 3 2010, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Find me someone who does, and I'll find you a purple kangaroo named Mack with a tattoo that says LOLA LOLAA on his right bicep.


I'm sure someone in Serenwilde has compiled the information from all the chelp laws type files they could find into a single document, or at worst a session of documents they can open quickly. It's the electronic version of what I've heard referred to as a "paper brain."

I know at least one person in Glomdoring has. suspicious.gif


Beyond that... as much as people complain about that sort of thing in their real life situations, you would think perhaps they'd do something about it in those situations where they had direct input, as opposed to representative input.
Sylphas2010-03-04 03:57:20
QUOTE (demonnic @ Mar 3 2010, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure someone in Serenwilde has compiled the information from all the chelp laws type files they could find into a single document, or at worst a session of documents they can open quickly. It's the electronic version of what I've heard referred to as a "paper brain."

I know at least one person in Glomdoring has. suspicious.gif


Beyond that... as much as people complain about that sort of thing in their real life situations, you would think perhaps they'd do something about it in those situations where they had direct input, as opposed to representative input.


They tend to simply ignore it here, where they can get away with it. Less work.
Unknown2010-03-04 04:05:42
QUOTE (Sylphas @ Mar 3 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They tend to simply ignore it here, where they can get away with it. Less work.


A sure sign of a need for social reform, eh? =)