Hey, he raised up some other options. This one is more balanced than some of the things he mentioned, and is far less of a punishment / more of a compromise which would be far easier for the players being affected to stomach. There is a reason for bringing it up, after all! Especially if Fearaura is modified, there really isn't much of any combat imbalance to be imposed by this.

Also: Cursing Prime orgs with mobs "just to be an annoyance" is extremely "meh". No thanks!

A lot of Sojiro's ideas look great though.

Shop ideas (taken from Xiel):
-custom teleport
-custom enter/exit
-custom ascend
-ability to give a room emote when you're in the same room with the demi
-ability to bestow karma blessings for essence
-change damage type of zap
-second tradeskill

More stuff for the shop (my ideas):
-temporary artifacts purchasable with essence (??), might be too much, but it can cost a lot.
-mini-creche, a one-room spot in the havens accessible only by the demi via ascend. You can buy various 'effects' you can imbue into the creche, things like endurance/will/etc. regain, insanity reduction, some protection from scry, etc.
-ability to shove custom text dreams into the heads of sleeping people.
-the chance to erase your family status/bloodline with essence. A demigod has severed his ties with mortalhood, yadda yadda, some rationale can be made.
-a demigod 'bell' artifact you can buy that you can drop in a room. If someone rings that bell, you get an alert regardless of where you are.
-aura of intimidation - no more running into cows
-thunderclap - a demigod can clap his hands for fireworks. The bright kind.
-I kind of want to ask for a demigod to have the ability to cast illusions, but in order to make it unusable for combat, the demigod will need full hp/mana/ego/power to do them + long balance and equilibrium time.
-blowhard - demigods can shout and be heard from anywhere
-personal custom demigod emote, one only, may include a custom pose.
-ability to grant a 'token' of sorts. In my mind, it functions like a favour (without giving any actual mechanical advantages), you give it to someone when you like them or it can be a signature of sorts. It's just a coin with the demigod's mark on it. Gotta collect them all.
-custom qq/login message.
-ability to know how much balance/eq you took when doing an action, server-side. I'd rather the whole game get this though, but since I'm thinking about it, why not.
-ability to purchase knowledge of mortal languages like aslari, elfen, etc.
-the ability to completely customize your description. No more "He is an ordinary human demigod and"...I hate that first 'and' in descriptions.
-ability to change your colour on qw. No more monotonous gold.
-special foods/booze for demigods.
-ability to worsen/improve your tolerance for alcohol.

I'll edit as I think of more stuff.

Aww but they don't do anything they're just... there. Either way it's an example of what I meant about rituals for ascendants to perform.

I think you'd be better off going the other way, summoning mobs that can patrol / defend / whatever. The "not doing anything, they're just... there" part isn't exactly true since you had them changing / affecting the area (and their just being there is doing something). I am pretty sure that the absolute last thing we want is, say, me repeatedly spamming these mobs on Serenwilde for days on end with my stockpile of essence.

Any idea suggested, you have to consider the impact if someone feels like "griefing" with it.

Why would I care what you do to Serenwilde? Personally I would probably be laughing if you did.

Maybe boosts to different incomes to the org, defenses against terror/rage covens in a single location.

More because that's the "most likely" example of an org I'd sic them on. I'm sure there would be a heck of a lot of frustration if, every time they undid it, I just redid it. For a RL week.

Why would I care what you do to Serenwilde? Personally I would probably be laughing if you did.

Somebody mentioned awhile back having duels involved with god wars, which I think would open up use of the system a bit. Perhaps work that in with cults, something like every cult member present can empower the cult leader to some minor degree, two cult leaders can duel, and the winner and the cult all get the Truefavour rewards, maybe steal some essence from the losing cult too.

I don't really like the "sumon domoth mobs into prime org to be annoying" but the idea of being able to summon domoth mobs sounds neat in general, even if just for show. Maybe only ascendants who hold a crown could do it. I'd say let them infer some minor buff, but think there's already some buff associated with holding the domoth?

Also it would be cool if Ascendance Consumption was actually worthwhile to ever use. Don't have it myself, but told it's something like 1 essence gained for every 100 drained, and can only drain small amounts at a time. Perhaps it could be buffed to be an actual worthwhile to use damage attack that only works against demi-gods/ascendants, and keep the essence stealing + insanity? =o

On more thought, since it sounds like we may actually be taking cults from ascendance maybe summoning a domoth mob could be new ability in ascendance that works like Necromancy RaiseDead? Instead of a corpse, you need to hold a domoth crown.

Also it would be cool if Ascendance Consumption was actually worthwhile to ever use. Don't have it myself, but told it's something like 1 essence gained for every 100 drained, and can only drain small amounts at a time. Perhaps it could be buffed to be an actual worthwhile to use damage attack that only works against demi-gods/ascendants, and keep the essence stealing + insanity? =o

I do not believe we're giving free pets/manse dwellers to demigods/ascendants/cults, sorry. It's been proposed in the past and generally shot down. If it operated like Necro raisedead, it lacks one of the crucial points of RD - which is, the wraith/whatever will attack the person it was raised from.

Shop ideas (taken from Xiel):
-custom teleport
-custom enter/exit
-custom ascend
-ability to give a room emote when you're in the same room with the demi
-ability to bestow karma blessings for essence
-change damage type of zap
-second tradeskill

More stuff for the shop (my ideas):
-temporary artifacts purchasable with essence (??), might be too much, but it can cost a lot.
-mini-creche, a one-room spot in the havens accessible only by the demi via ascend. You can buy various 'effects' you can imbue into the creche, things like endurance/will/etc. regain, insanity reduction, some protection from scry, etc.
-ability to shove custom text dreams into the heads of sleeping people.
-the chance to erase your family status/bloodline with essence. A demigod has severed his ties with mortalhood, yadda yadda, some rationale can be made.
-a demigod 'bell' artifact you can buy that you can drop in a room. If someone rings that bell, you get an alert regardless of where you are.
-aura of intimidation - no more running into cows
-thunderclap - a demigod can clap his hands for fireworks. The bright kind.
-I kind of want to ask for a demigod to have the ability to cast illusions, but in order to make it unusable for combat, the demigod will need full hp/mana/ego/power to do them + long balance and equilibrium time.
-blowhard - demigods can shout and be heard from anywhere
-personal custom demigod emote, one only, may include a custom pose.
-ability to grant a 'token' of sorts. In my mind, it functions like a favour (without giving any actual mechanical advantages), you give it to someone when you like them or it can be a signature of sorts. It's just a coin with the demigod's mark on it. Gotta collect them all.
-custom qq/login message.
-ability to know how much balance/eq you took when doing an action, server-side. I'd rather the whole game get this though, but since I'm thinking about it, why not.
-ability to purchase knowledge of mortal languages like aslari, elfen, etc.
-the ability to completely customize your description. No more "He is an ordinary human demigod and"...I hate that first 'and' in descriptions.
-ability to change your colour on qw. No more monotonous gold.
-special foods/booze for demigods.
-ability to worsen/improve your tolerance for alcohol.

I'll edit as I think of more stuff.

Oh, I thought it attacked personal enemies. That's what the AB on Xiel's site sounds like. <,<

Forcing a challenge is a terrible idea right now. As it stands, by being an active god who is actively adding to his realm, I've actually punished my order - Nocht, who has a very small realm, would take RL days to defeat in an orderwar, whereas mine would end in a matter of a single respawn of my godrealm.

Limiting cults to just the owner seems to me the only 'fair' way to do it - it's their cult.

Particularly, the way it seems to me the best way of doing it right now is, to strip cults out of Ascendance, make a new skillset (Veneration or something), fill it in with more cult stuff relative to cult conflict, some more rites, some godrealm stuff, etc, and then all members of the cult have access to the skillset - except, their proficiency in it is the same as the cult leader's, and the cult leader is the only person who can learn in it (probably spending lessons, like Ascendance is now). Then, only the cult leader has access to the major rites (stuff like portals, glory, intervention, prospicience), while other members might have access to lesser abilities that have less far-reaching effects.

And, the mere cost of cults alone should tell you they're not designed for multiple people to use a single cult's pool. You're getting what, 5-6 people using the same abilities that cost a ton of essence (more than 1/4th of my total essence, and I basically get a ton of offerings from Celest) for a single person. Sorry, this would be akin to raising one person an ascendant, and then suddenly all demigods are basically ascendants. I'm not buying it. And I most strongly advise not arguing the point, because I'm just going to get agitated - it's so blatantly imbalanced and a bug, the notion of 'Well, I thought it was intended that an infinite number of people can use something designed for a single person' is so ludicrous I'm just going to get upset.

Cults are, as has been said, cost-prohibitive. Yes, I doubt your average god will have more than 1 or 2. I think that's how it should be.