You want a defense of Tekora? Ok. Tekora didn't kill anyone, yet someone died. That was easy. You're supposed to lynch the bad people, not the bad players. His power is also a huge liability to the scum. He can't use it as scum except in the endgame. The second he starts using it for the scum, he gives himself away and will be lynched pretty much immediately.

And no, Bali chose a night action that not only wasn't confirmable under the circumstances, but pretty much was not confirmable under any situation and had no benefit to any sort of intelligent town play. Plus, he is not easily checked later.

This works under the assumption that townies don't end up acting scummy - he'd just need to be cautious with his choices.

It was brought up before, I believe by Kiradawea, that if Bali were scum and lying, then he'd have had better options for the nightkill than Sylphas. Thinking back on this, I still can't figure out who the better kills would be.

Vote: Tekora

You guys almost had me convinced to vote Bali. There's still some suspicion there. But in the end,



kept coming back to me. It strikes me as an attempt to plant suspicion. There's different ways to see it, but that's the way it fits best in my mind.

In some ways, what Tekora makes sense. Scum don't have to worry about killing themselves. On the other hand, this suggests that Tekora felt strongly that he had a target, and was blocked from a good chance at a scum kill. Which was never expounded upon. Because if he didn't... well, it would be a moot point then, wouldn't it?

The other thing to ask is: who would it actually be smart for town to roleblock in this game?

I think we need to pause for a votecount

I'm certain that Eldanien's is the only one to change since the last one. Bali is three away from a lynch, and Tekora is now two.

I'd quote stuff, if I were better at not fubaring it.

Thanks Eldanien for pointing that out, I did forget Tekora had tried to make me look scummy. I already said why I blocked him, I dunno what else say, other to repeat myself, which is redundant, I'd think.

So yeah. I guess I'm leaning more towards voting for Tekora now.

The stench of hypocrisy chokes me.

Bored-ghost-votecount.

Bali - 4 (Xavius, Shiri, Tekora, Dugan)
Tekora - 5 (Kiradawea, Siam, Bali, Saran, Eldanien)

Do I get to take over Shulamit or Saran soon?

Not really, no.

It's actually interesting to watch all of these people ranting and raving.

Also a fyi, you really should not be posting in the thread at all until you are actually in the game again.

I forget, did anyone claim to block Xavius last night?

just cause I remember something him being unable to copy my power

Arix froze him, which is how his little bit of drama at the start of the day got kicked off.

Or if he were the arsonist, he missed the chance to chuck fuel at people.

I'm also wary of Xavius' 'good defense' for Tekora:



It seems to me he's very sure that Tekora is town. The thing is, not everyone is sure someone else is town, unless they're scum team mates and scum a, scum b, and scum c are trying to protect scum d. At least, that's how I see it.

Not only are you posting in a game while dead, you're making a comment on an active player's post that has potential to sway undecided voters' opinions.

If I was modding, I'd remove you from the waiting list for breaking the rules like that.

This is Tekora's only defense against my arguments toward him. Thats all he's wanted to say about the Gleip hammer. Of course, this post might provoke him to post more on the matter, but its really too late. He had his chance to defend against his ludicrous nonsensical accusations. He instead used the time for ad-hom attacks on the entire town/moaned & whined.

This sort of fatalist attitude is such a scumtell.



I wasn't worrying about being confirmed N1. I was thinking about what was in the town's best interests. We simply could not afford to have Siam die N1. Cops, Docs, all other roles aside he is the strongest townie role in the game. Its also a very anti-scum role. The fact that my action isn't confirmable N1 doesn't mean imply that I'm scum. Neither does the fact that you say Tekora didn't kill anyone mean he is town.

Analysis of last night (god I should have done this sooner)

- The roles:



- What was reported:

- SHIRI redirector, targetted TEKORA, does not state who he redirected to.
- ROMERTIEN watcher, saw SYLPHAS target SHIRI...
- XAVIUS, cop/mimic "targetted" SARAN, nothing happened
- VENDETTA swapper, did NOTHING
- KIRADAWEA firefighter, did NOTHING? (Who is Reimu?)
- BALI, selfless bodyguard, targetted SIAM
- ARIX, jailkeeper, FROZE XAVIUS, THE COP...
- SARAN, JoAT, did NOTHING
- SIAM, global nightskipper, did NOTHING
- ILEEIN, doctor, PROTECTED HIMSELF...
- SHULAMIT, roleblocker, ROLEBLOCKED TEKORA...
- TEKORA, nightvig, did NOTHING

So when you break it down, some few things immediately jump out at you.

Arix freezes the cop. Jesus christ.
Romertien claims an action on the deadman.
Ileein protects himself. Do we even know if thats possible?
Shulamit roleblocks the person who says he's going to do nothing. WHAT?
Shiri redirects the person who says he's going to do nothing AND does not say who he redirected to.

Xavius likes to say my claim is not confirmable, but what about these other claims? At least I have a spectacular reason. God I am really angry at myself for not bothering to look at this. Arix needs to go, Romertien needs to go, Shiri needs to clarify who he claims to have redirected Tekora to and why...

unvote for now

Nevermind about Ileein, also please ignore any other errors. Will be back later.

Vote Count
Bali - 4 (Xavius, Shiri, Tekora, Dugan)
Tekora - 4 (Kiradawea, Siam, Saran, Eldanien)

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

@Gleip: Consider this your one and only warning. You are NOT to post ANYTHING that is relevant to the discussion IN ANY WAY if you are not currently listed on the roster as an active player. It's not only bad etiquette, but something that was stated clearly in the rules - which you should have read.

Once again, I had a reason, albeit not a good one, for freezing Xavius. I'm done trying to justify it, the weekend is coming and I'll see you all Sunday one way or the other

And yes, Shiri does need to speak up, I've not heard from him in awhile

I didn't notice the thing about Shiri just now. Thanks for that.

Replace just with until.

Except that's not what Shiri said. Bali just asked you to ignore his errors.

Shiri redirected Tekora to Tekora.