I thought we knew already? The crystalized fleshpots act as homing beacons for our super planet cracker ray, no?

And you would have likely been ignored or over-ruled.

I wonder if Desitrus has figured out that whole cityrank caveat deal.

Chances are he doesn't care, though.

I could be wrong. Alternatively, he'd be as scathing as he was when he got forum banned. And I would pay to see it.

*chokes on her soda*

You guys really should get rid of that CR4 defense rule, it's really hurting the fighter image. And let's face it, might makes right.

Problem is, there's already a rep for it. :/

If Hallifax accepts that might makes right in all cases, the whole ideal pretty much goes, I think.

Well, the rules could be flexibly reinterpreted. The ideal, as always, is to strike a balance between roleplay and workability. Though, on the other hand, while I understand the shiney of CR6, I'm not quite sure why it is absolutely vital to be CR6 in the city when you're someone who engages in defense? In all honesty, looking at the caste articles, sneezing in hallifax can be reinterpreted to be worthy of cityfavour at least to the middle castes.

(Anyone who liberally reinterprets this question to mean 'Fighters don't matter and I think they suck and they don't belong on CR6' will be forum banned)

i think its more the idea of "defense of the city" is less important than "write a scroll on how time is like a ravenwood writing desk"

So that's why a raven is like a writing desk.

And, uh, yeah, that's sort of... the idea. All else being equal, and assuming someone only ever writes or only ever fights (both of which seem like kind of boring ways of playing to me), the writer can get CR6 and the fighter can get CR4. But seriously, how many people have playing styles that are that monochromatic? :/

Well, the fact that Scientists and Artists rule supreme under the caste system is one of the cornerstones of Hallifax culture. Even if you were to completely abolish the caste articles for cityfavours, all the mobs (and many, if not most of the players) would still consider a scientist to outrank a warrior. Much like in Celest I shouldn't be preaching enslavement of the Supernals, or the creation of a complex legal structure to ensure the supremacy of the current leadership in Gaudiguch.

Are you saying that fighters don't matter and that YOU THINK THEY SUCK AND DON'T BELONG AT CR6?!


Totally calling a bluff. Watch this backfire.

In the latter group, mostly unanimously.

In the former group, quite often very close to unanimous.

The big point of CR6 (in my opinion) is the full repertoire of village influencing abilities. Given that revolts (barring peaced ones) tend to have a lot of combat, having competent combatants that can be fully useful tends to be helpful.

Tell this to Demigod powers and how you can't be fully PvP or Fully RP without getting nothing in the other.

If you look around, I'm sure you can find a high number of players who just RP or just PvP.

...Look at me. In the 3 or so years I have been playing, I have yet to get into combat.

Because CR6 has always been tied to a item of mechanical importance that is important to a fighter and a city. Pretty much any productive and often active member should have CR6 for the mechanical uses. CR6 is important to combat for revolts.

Now then, and I've said this before, Hallifax is honestly pretty lazy with their caste RP. Not favouring a fighter past CR4 without artistic or scientific work isn't really good RP, it is using a mechanical system. If you want to really RP out a caste system then Hallifax should start making people declare their role within the city and what the caste they belong to is. Each caste gets its own set of tasks to reach CR6. Each caste gets its own privs for different items. If you're a warrior, good news you get way more power and get to be in charge of Hallifax's defenses. I hope you don't like books though, the Scientists and Artists don't trust you so the library is restricted to you. Artists and Scientists get their own privilege, more books to read (someone can think of cooler privileges then me for scientists and artists.). Breaking caste lines could also be punishable by law. They have way more room to work with then just "lol, you can't be cr6".

Would that not be way too hard to administrate?

I mean, sure, being a member of Hallifax you probably would like some sort of mock-bureaucracy, but -ACTUAL- extremely complicated and unwieldy bureaucracy would just end up being, meh, I reckon.

To be fair, that would be incredibly lame. I'm sorry anyone who has declared themselves in the warrior caste but wants to produce a play or write some poetry for a contest, you need to get back into the trenches and leave the artistic stuff to the artists. Dear Scholar, no, you can't lead a raid on Fire... wtf are you thinking leaving the library? That pretty much forces everyone to pick one thing and do nothing but that one thing, where Lusternia has been about having endless possibilities.

If it helps, I don't think it is intentional. They're not intentionally holding CR6 from people that it would help. But giving CR6 to anyone helps a city. And not giving CR6 to people who do help with things like revolts hurts a city. Hallifax is far better off on making castes not based on the mechanical city ranks and instead giving bonuses, negatives, and different tasks to each caste.

And for an example, if we did the same thing in Magnagora no one but noble names and Viscanti would have CR6. Instead even a Furrikin can have CR6 and we can still RP out ways that Furrikin is below a Viscanti noble and give those nobles more sway within the org.

don't get me wrong. i'm more than ecstatic that Hallifax isnt one of those places where someone like narsrim would be inducted and people go "omgwow narsrim cf him gaaiz gogo cause hes a fighter keke" or if a cr6 gets disfavouredfor breaking laws but then refavoured for "years of service to the city". hallifax has sound, well thought-out rp, and i treasure that.


but when you're told after laying down your life for hallifax that basically the noncom shivering at the matrix in fear is worth more to the city, you get a little jaded. and when you are told to your face that 'yes, you linked 500-700 power into the matrix. but because you're not the one that raised the node, you dont get recognition for it.' or that 'yes, you defended air and/or continuum, but defense doesnt warrant a favour, you owe it to the city anyway' and a myriad of other things.


now, lets turn the tables. imagine if -any- other org woke up tomorrow and announced that only warriors and active people in the brigade/guard/swarm/legion were allowed past cr4. also, these people are obviously better than those who arent.

people would bricks and you know it.