Does any org's newbie planar quest count Air, Fire, Vortex, or Continuum? Serenwilde's does not, and it was almost immediately returned as not a bug. There is absolutely no reason for ours to only count the original planes. Can you we please get this fixed?

You might need to devalue something to do so though. Just, the current set up generally requires a newbie to have a higher up assist them and, per comments made when collegiums were released, that is the intent. As a serenwilder newb I could easily go to all four elemental planes and at current points that should complete the quest.

Also I think even the new cities don't get points for getting to every organisation... hrm, I think Halli only gets serenwilde and glomdoring from memory... alt time

It was decided when we released the new cities that only Hallifax/Gaudiguch would use fire/air/continuum/vortex, and every org would have 2 elemental planes and 2 cosmic planes.

Otherwise it just becomes a bogged down nightmare (beyond just the scripting, it would require we shuffle around point values, so that you don't just go to the 4 elemental planes and faethorn and be done, etc).

but yeah, either adjust points or redo everything and make it function on generalized areas (like... visit an elemental plane, visit faethorn, visit a commune reflection)

Meh. I can't tell novices that "These planes don't count because the God's can't be arsed to do it." I hate that there's not any semblance of an explanation IC that I can possible think of.

Serendoring: Only the waters that sustain life and the earth that support it, and their respective cosmic planes, are tied closely enough to the forest/wyrd for it to resonate with the sphere/nurture the seeds.

Well, sure, I can make up about anything, really, Air and Fire fit in there just as easily. Still makes no sense.

The time warp could be the reasoning, however in the name of maintainable code I would not suggest just adding the planes because the same thing happens should jojobo and ackleberry ever turn up.

Simplest way I can see is to modify as I said though depending on how the code works it might only remove the issue of points and not any coding work.

I'm not really keen on rewriting six collegium quests for what amounts to a warm-fuzzy feeling and a lack of desire to say 'That's just the way it is.' - and saying 'the Gods can't be arsed' to is a bit shallow. It's not a matter of 'being arsed' to do something - it's a matter of priorities. It would take all day to rewrite the quest (and then shift it amongst the various cities/communes, re-adjust the lines for flavour, then hack apart the aetherbubbles to restore its original list, then have to make sure that it's open-ended enough for any future orgs that may one day be released or any changes that want to be made). It's fine as-is imo.

If you want an explanation, Ubaidi's spheres were crafted before the return of Air/Fire/Continuum/Vortex - so they are not attuned to handle the energies out there. Much as they do not work on every aetherbubble, but only certain ones. Same with every other city/commune, really!

Sorry, I need to stop posting when I'm in a terrible mood. I understand all that, though I'm still annoyed by it.

Relax.