Or if you're like me, you only have one instakill, the one in Paradigmatics.

Thanks, Hexes!

Yes, my sonic screwdriver wand sonic screwdriver is runed

I want an onyx wand, but can't make onyx wands yet (or last I checked, anyway).

Also, I don't think hex/pentangle works on wands, either.

Nice to see that a few things are fixed already, though.

Still better than the three quarters of an instakill Wiccans have to work with!

I suggest you read the requirements for the insta-kills before you make that assessment.

I don't count Toadcurse as an instakill. It's a kill, usually, but it's not instant.

Why not? I mean it has an extra step, the stomping, but how's that any different than having to wait so many seconds without doing anything and hoping the person is hindered enough to not get away before it happens? Granted, I'm not a fighter, but it seems comparable to me.

The only way to hinder them is with icewalls (or a lucky Shafts or something) since afflictions are cured on Toadcurse. I've always loved the flavour but hated the actual mechanics. But sure, we can count it if you want.

Both new guardians get two instakills, Soulless and Timequake/Illumination. Complaining you don't have enough is vaguely annoying when we barely have one.

ToadCurse is far superior to TimeQuakes as a kill method. Even the an Institute guardian has no way to keep a person massively TimeWarp 1 on 1, outside of maybe using plague + bedevil in Healing. They may have had decent chance of pulling it off 1 on 1 if the Admin had given the Institute hexes instead of Healing, which it really did not need as an option anyway considering all of the defense that is available in Aeonics + Harmonics.

You still get two. We get one. Shiri was complaining about not having three. I really don't care which ones are viable or not, I'm just counting.

You mentioned that your option was barely one, and I mentioned that one of the options you mention others have is far less than your barely one option. So you were not just counting, you were also quantifying the worth of your one option. So, I did the same for the Institute guardians.

Because it doesn't actually kill you, Stomp does. Yours actually do kill people, if you set it up. I was just making fun of Shiri and it turned into an argument.

Don't let him fool you. Toadcurse kills me less than half the time. It's a half mana inquisition.

Depends on a lot of things. If you hit a decent sleeplock, you'll have walls no problem. If it's a group, it really depends on how fast you can run before you get stomp triggered.

Wiccans do just fine as they are, without a 'kill method'. Certainly, a certain shadowdancer's 738 player kills in less than a year speak to that!

The thought with the Institute is that they would try and stick enough rubies on a target to shatterplex (and rubies are not that easy to get rid of, especially if the target resonates). Shatterplex would instantly massively TimeWarp the target (on top of any warps from passive or active Aeonics skills), and thus the guardian could follow up with a TimeQuake. I suppose only time will tell if this is a workable strategy, but I think it's a little soon to say that other skills are "far superior". We'll see and adjust though!

Krellan doesn't count. He steals kills.

Shadowdancers have Choke. What's the Moondancer count? And how much of that was 1v1. Not that it matters, I guess, since it never happens.

Destruction + maxed magic rune > All other kill methods

Also this. Choke + Destruction is not Wiccan combat. It's Krellan combat. There's a difference.