There's still the Flesh part!





(I will claim your nose someday, beware!)

Let's say, "hypothetically," that people were trying to outguild you, and no reason was being given for it, until the day after you made a certain forum thread, and then it was said that you were "publicly besmirching the name of the guild" despite a lack of in-game evidence of you ever did this, because you were careful to keep your conflicts and what arguments you did have under wraps in a private clan news board that exists for guild administrative stuff. I mean, it really looks like there has been a recent change in policy/approach to my situation because of the forum thread I made. Is there any point in issueing this however, besides revenge? I'm not sure if it's a redressable injury, to use a quasi-legal term.

That's pretty balls dude, it's pretty hard to actually prove anything, though it sure makes you look at the guild in a different light regardless.

Were you trying to quote Jello on that one?

I'm not exactly sure what happened, but you're being brought down to guild rank 4 instead of being kicked out (Grench wouldn't budge on the subject).

As for the whole "Forum" thing, Ruiku doesn't visit the forums that often, and Shiawase almost never does, so I highly doubt that it has anything to do with this thread (though I could be mistaken).

You can see who visits the forums when by who looks at who's profile so one of these statements are not correct.

That really doesn't sound fair. I've never known Winnae to do anything that would warrant such a huge amount of disfavours necessary to get him to GR4 from 19. Even certain other individuals who got into guild leadership positions only to do absolutely nothing except stroke their massive epeens in other guilds I've been in haven't been given such treatment, and Winnae certainly never did that.

I agree. Its not fair.

Its simply a powerplay.

Delayed double post? Interesting.

I'm way too ethical (read: nice) to pull that sort of crap on someone, even if I don't like them or feel that they got into their position only for the guild rank. That's really awful, and I don't think Winnae did anything to deserve it.

Those are reasonable opinions without knowing the facts, or even more importantly knowing how the Ur'Guard runs internally.

I'm not fond of certain things regarding this situation, and that's why we have RP and IC politics. Without going into a not so brief history of how he ruined his reputation in the guild, even I would say things could have been handled better despite the headbutting he and I had.

The only sad part IMO is that the entire friction could have been avoided, easily.

Edit: Oh and just to clarify, I doubt the timing of your post had something to do with the IC events. It's been talked about constantly amongst some since our argument Jello(Winnae).

ALL WILL BOW.

You worry me. T T


Does this mean Winnae's not leaving Mag? ;-;

This.

I feel that our leaders have always been approachable. Of course, we still sometimes pull rank and put the smart-mouthing Shade in their place, but I think Glomdoring gets along pretty well. Narynth even announces over CT that she'll be available in the Shadow Court if anyone wishes to speak with her pretty much daily.

Well, I had an offer to join the ninjakari, not sure if I will or not since tae'dae monk strikes me as weird. Still, Thul does it well enough.

The thing about being demoted to GR4, is that at that point, you don't need the GA's approval to outguild someone I think. I really respect the ur'Guard GA for forcing that as a compromise, but someone like her doesn't understand the... dedication some people have for their vendettas. She told me she thinks it would end the situation, it wouldn't, I'd just be outguilded after the demotion, and I like her too much to put her through the dramaz that would ensue.

Overall, I will say that I'm very satisfied with my time in the ur'Guard. I faced up against a ton of opposition, and held the Champion spot consistently and by good margins despite this opposition and the fact that a better fighter wanted the spot badly enough to do this. It only reached this point because I took an awesome trip to Japan. Let's face it, I do the tae'dae charisma justice, and if I had been around to defend myself, I don't see an outguilding occurring over this. As far as I'm concerned, I won

Wait, you got demoted from GR19 to GR4? O.o

2/3 leaders were going to to that, yes, for two reasons.

And as the dust settles in this thread, meteorologists have spotted Hurricane Rika on the horizon.

What? I'm not an Aeromancer.

Oh, wow. I feel an Aeromancy-themed love song coming on. More on this as it develops.