Hey, I suppose I should stick up for myself, I just was feeling very uncertain on the whole about Lusternia. I came here because I heard it was amazing, and came to Magnagora because it is -exactly- what I enjoy playing. A rigid society, a specific caste system, political conflict/drama. Taevi is hard headed, amoral, unfeeling, vicious and driven. Everything is about advancing higher, and I completely understand there will be a struggle. ICly she will prattle on and sulk but OOCly I fully understand it takes a lot of work to accomplish what you need to. I wasn't, at first, prepared for it but it is just something I will have to work with.

I think the main thing that had me flummoxed and deterred from continuing to play is in my personal experience, within the nasty, political, scheming groups I played in is there was an OOC accord kept to make sure those new to the game understood what was really going on. That wasn't present, at all. I'm not new to role-play, not by a long shot and so after repeated happenings of being kicked for being a serf, with no catchup as to if I was alright, I felt bullied and uncertain if I could approach anyone OOC. In fact, twice in the newbie channel I've been given hell for using an emote, which I thought was OOC itself. I was assured it was but gradually, with very little ooc interaction from anyone it became very frustrating.

I honestly felt like I had no voice, and as a player wasn't worth anything because I was new.

I will say, though, I have met some fantastic people, ones who've made me feel welcome and I don't want to discredit them. This thread, as well, showed me that there is more than meets the eye.

I honestly don't think occurs to people to send a quick OOC tell making sure someone they've just berated verbally or squished flat is ok.

It should, but it doesn't. Not sure why...

Do stay around, many, if not all Lusternians happen to be genuinely nice people when you get to know them.

Also, since I can not help myself.

If you want a rigid society with a strict caste system, you should come2halli < _ <

I was just thinking that!

Well clearly, great minds think alike.

*ruffles her feathers* But you guys are so niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice and shiiiiiiiiiiiiny. I like the dingy air on my feathers, gives a certain..je ne sais quoi. I will have to roll some alts, perhaps, and peek about at the other cities. As is I feel terrible for killing people associated to Glomdoring. I had no idea what I was doing

*clings to Taevi* Shoo with your Halli propaganda, she's ours

Actually, we are quite authoritarian and facist, but hide it all behind shiny crystals, fancy talk and hollow aesthetics.

There is no ghost in the machine, the crystal city is a soulless shell.

< _ < *Cough cough*

Taaaaevi <3

Awww.

(who are you?)

Azotep. But I know you on other chars too.

I don't really know which category I fit in, in this particular situation. I do try to be an asshole, sure, I also may be a serf at the present time in magnagora but I still stick with how I've always played my person and have serfs do my work for me however ironic that may be. There have been some people that were or are magnagoran that think or thought I was a total prick period and there are some I get along with real well. I have one instance to bring how I played my character into perspective but I don't really recall specific details, something along the lines of Celina my IG daughter was being mouthy one day so she went into the manse to her room and I ended up locking her in there going in and beheading her as a form of punishment. I think I've probably killed all of my kids at some point or another and they turned out alright for the most part except the one that turned into a filthy glom /forumrp. I did my fair share of publically degrading people as well but if said person was to talk to me personally or out of character I probably wouldn't be the same asshole as I was unless I didn't like you to begin with I suppose.

Oh. Taevi has gotten -severely- punished by Gavriel for not heeding his words, or misbehaving. It's just it was a constant thing, not from just one person and that's where I started getting overwhelmed. I understand consequences for actions, readily enough but other than totally mouth off to her father there are very few times outright she has done any serious offense. (that I know of)

If any of you novices are ever feeling really isolated and bullied and not sure who to talk to ICly or OOCly, if there's a Newbie Guide on, I'm sure they'd be really, really willing to help. Either to comfort or explain or maybe act as a go-between to mediate, in this situation at least.

Also, no one should be berating anyone for making simple mistakes on the newbie channel. At all. Unless it's overly disruptive - and usually the Gods or a Guide would take of that.

Any of you Mag novices can just sign up for the Kalas Greathouse protection program- two centuries of whoopin' asshats.

And if I recall, no one except Gods or Guides should be handling the correcting people the Newbie channel like that. I know I've been guilty of it in the past...

You should have read Magnagora's concept and laws, especially regarding the lack of 'rights' Serfs had, and either came to one of two conclusions:

1. "I like this, so I'm going to stick around and endure whatever it is that could come my way. There's only so many things they could do that are really awful, and I can always just log out if it is too much for me."
2. "I do not like this, so I am going to go somewhere else and hope for the best!"

I had Magnagora explained clearly to me, from what Gavriel had played in, so I knew what I was walking into. There is a line between being a boss man and being a bully. I would like to think I explained myself clear enough in my other post. I'm new, I didn't realise the extent of it and there was no ooc communication, so there was a lot of confusion.

Correct!