What stops a warrior from switching their cloaks on the go? If they're fighting a fire-heavy class and have on magic/electricity proofs and don't decide to switch, I wouldn't say that's a mechanics problem, though convenience would be a point of problem.

In which case, I have no problems with addressing that.

With runes, 120 in one stat, 100 in the other. most people have it at 110/110 though.

According to AB TAILORING BATTING, vests can be batted to provide proofings just like a set of greatrobes. Batting doesn't seem to work on any vests, though, which I would assume is a bug.

Vests are inferior to fullplate statistics though they do have the capability of being batted.

Edit: Oh, unless the Powers That Be decide to magnify the elemental defenses given by vests in exchange for the physical sacrifice, which would in turn make, I think, an interesting possibility for vests to become viable. Which means new things to design that people would actually use.

This can be disputed, actually. The value of the artifact just went way up (as evidenced by people like Vadi going, "Well, I guess I need to buy a shield rune now." However, the credit price did not go up at the same time.

It is still better than the best alternate shield... but now with an even greater gap, leaving it as a much better purchase. Lowering it (while still leaving it significantly above the greatest greatshield) would not actually devalue it compared to the alternatives; there's no other option, you'd still want it, AND it still frees up a hand.

The credit value was not specifically for the 52/52; it was for making an item you were already going to hold into a shield, along with getting something better than a greatshield.

Honestly, the shield rune (if it stays 52/52) should get an increase in price now.

Wouldn't the vests and fullplate stack?

I can't actually test what vests do insofar as proofing and such, since apparently batting hates me. :|

I'm pretty sure vests occupy the same clothing slots as most armour (ie. robes/plate) do, so I don't think people can stack them.

Ah. Yea, I can't wear robes/vest together. Can't actually test with armour, though.

Ogod, you quoted my terribad grammar before I fixed it.

What terribad grammar?

EDIT: Actually "armour does" was correct, while "armour do" is, in fact, terribad grammar.

EDIT 2: I want a clothing sloth now.

Misspelled slots and armour fits either in reference to a singular thing or a number of them, methinks, so armour -> do makes sense in my mind then in the plural since I'm referring to the plural slots.

Besides, saying 'the armours do' sounds awkward and icky.

Uh no.

Maximum: * Plate armour: 100 for each stat. 180 for the combined stats.

Master plate is +10/+10, so 200 combined max/ 110 single stat. (a couple minor outliers exist beyond what can be tempered to)

Add forging runes, add +7/+7 to that too.

Armour does! It is a mass noun!

I thought forging runes were +10/+10.

I was only 3 points off for each stat!

I get your point. I disagree though. It offers 52/52 protection and was set at 350 credits. It still offers same amount of protection it is set aside from the other standards, just because greatshields got nerfed, doesn't mean that 52/52 protection is worth more, it's just more desired. If it were to offer a 40/40 protection for example I'd expect the price to go down, because a 52/52 shield was sold at 350 credits, it doesn't mean that a 36/36 shield (Roughly 12 points above a 24/24 shield which is possible to forge?) is worth 350 credits at least not to me..

Like I said I understand your point, but I disagree, it's a perspective thing I suppose.

I also said that if it were to help balance I wouldn't mind the shield getting nerfed, if an adjustment was happening, and it had a reason to make the protection go down. Like Viynain said to have a defense against an artied warrior you need an artied defense. I'd be perfectly fine with it if it were to help balance somehow and perhaps it was explained that it helped the balance. I understand that warrior combat is hard to balance due to high end weapons with arties, even compared to high end weapons without arties. I'm sympathetic to that having an alt warrior who will probably never buy weapon runes.

Batting is usable on leather armour vests only, not for tailoring vests. Obviously, you cannot wear a leather vest and plate.

Batting was originally made for bards since it was intended that acrobats would wear leather armour. Except leather will always suck compared to robes anyways, and the admin didn't want to go around making an exception to exclude robe use. So leather armour just has an overpriced, inferior means of getting a single proof as compared to greatrobes, while still being totally inferior to greatrobes AC wise.

Hurr.

I just want to be able to shield rune a book.

I want to rune my Luna doll.

How abusive. The poor thing will get smashed in the face all day.

...I want to shieldrune my spatula.