This topic was inspired by the recent discussion in the Tweets thread but I think it's sort of it's own little topic so I figured I should save the admins the trouble of moving it, and do it here. I'm not trying to start an argument, though it will probably result in that, but I just want to know, what is the reasoning behind raiding an org, then enemying its members when they come to defend, then chasing them around on prime neutral any time after that and using the reason "you're an enemy"? I mean, is there an actual reason I'm missing, or is it really just a pathetic excuse to pick a fight and create new targets for griefing, like it seems at first glance? I've thought about it and thought about it and I really can't come up with a reason beyond that.

Uh... Really? Did you miss the countless times I've mentioned on these forums - and in this thread - that Aubrey is a pacifist and doesn't pk, even in defense?

I couldn't figure out how to word this properly until just now when I went afk for a few and this analogy hit me: You said "well the orgs are at war, what do you expect" right? Except in war, at least RL war (yes I know it's not exactly the same, but for the sake of making my point), the armies don't go around killing civilians. In fact that's looked down upon or downright forbidden. Especially in neutral ground. It's one thing going back and forth and bombing each other's countries, but for example if you're American and you go visit France, and America and Germany were at war, you wouldn't expect German military to come in and kill you in France, right? That's what this feels like to me. Aubrey is an example of a civilian - a pacifist one at that, and very new when this happened. For an arti'd nearly omnitrans demigod to come kill a level 55 not-even-one-trans veritable newbie on neutral ground... "The orgs are at war" just sounds like a lame excuse. Unless Glom were RPing an org like the Taliban or something, like Lusternia's version of terrorists. But they're not, so... yeah... gotta go with Shaddus's original reply. Thanks everyone for helping answer my question!

War is hell.

Whatever, you'll never catch Osama Bin Narynth.

Whatever, you'll never catch Osama Bin Narynth.

Have you not heard about World War Two?

Many civilians died.

That does not make it 'right,' but war is never clean in the real world. There is a lot of collateral damage in Afghanistan these days, for example.

We already got Viynain Houssein, we'll get Narynth next.

I think Aubrey is not catching him/her on purpose, so she has a reason to continue complaining.

Oh if you wanted the 'real' why, it's for the sweet grief and pk xp, RP is just bent to satisfy that. Want to kill someone you hate? Poof, you are now the Protector of Gorgogs.

I figured the question was already answered within Shaddus' first post, I was just mostly interested in answering how 'bad' it really is.

Faymar, I'm not sure why you're so snarly, but I was actually just asking an honest question, because I thought I might be missing something. And yes, since you mention it, good idea, I believe I will indeed ignore your posts!

Actually, that was a veiled political comment. A snarly political comment, I have nothing against you. In that comment you were America, Osama bin Narynth was... well, Osama, and complaining was whatever they are justifying with the threat of terrorism these days.

Politics are not allowed.

Back away from the politics.

Being enemied for hunting protected beings is actually one of the most RP like things an org can do in enemying. Especially when it is areas like illithoid, kephera, merians who have very strong ties to an org. Even Ur'dead are understandeable even though they hate magnagora.