Force criminals to reincarnate into dwarves. No one wants to snuggle/mudsex a dwarf!

Sorry, didn't see this.

Yeah. I may get pissed because you aren't on the front lines, but I understand that support is just as important as actual fighting. I misunderstood and thought you meant you didn't like being in combat period.

Whoever said you were useless is a tard

My, this discussion is a sight for sore eyes. Where are the Talnaras to whip people in shape when you need them?

Apparently playing Illuminati alts.

I'm sorry. I have been not really participating in the raids any more, deliberately making myself too busy. The one recent time that I have participated, was in direct response to Veyrzhul waiting until the literal minute that Krellan and Shuyin logged off for the night, then bringing 5 people into Etherglom and killing Svorai and Calesta. That did upset me, and I solaced myself with a dozen lady-corpses the next day. In general, you're right. Part of me wants to get indignant at your anger - say that you were fine with this scenario when the shoe was on the other foot, say that if you want your org to do better you need to do more than cry about it, but you're right. We generally behave in the same way that Serenwilde used to, and boy did I hate their faces for it. You could ask for a time-out and you'd probably get one, but would you use it for anything? Do you bind fae? Do you gather bards and scholars? Do you do your village quests? Do you defile shrines? Do you wait up for domoths? Do you bash together and offer for TFs? I'll regret getting involved in this thread for saying this but, do you actually have the people who are willing to do more than simply expect it all to be as it was, as though you're entitled to that?


I have often wished that Shuyin and Viynain never came to Glomdoring. I feel like their presence will always overshadow the fact that despite what is seen from the outside, what actually got Glomdoring back on its feet was that Glomdoring, as a whole org, got back on its feet. We had an influx of players new to Lusternia who were smart, capable, and keen to play with a goal of improving the org, and really cared about achieving this goal. Some veteran players saw the momentum and decided to get involved, via alts or with their mains, and some the older glom types were reinvigorated. We got rid of the drama and the trouble-makers (only a couple of people really), and went gung-ho toward improving things in every tiny way, and we celebrated each tiny improvement, creating an atmosphere where people were excited to keep up the improvements, and we still have this. Yet all that is ever seen is that we got Shuyin and Viynain. Without meaning to sound offensive, just adding a couple of great combatants to an org and nothing else is how you get Magnagora, which has its own set of problems. Glomdoring isn't carried by its pk-ers. We could lose the heavy hitters at this point, and we'd lose some villages and wild nodes maybe, but I do not think the org would fall apart.

It bugs me that you call it free winning. There are a lot of people besides Shuyin in Glomdoring that invest a lot of time for the winning, and we really do get on the lazy-bones who aren't helping in some way. Lusternia is rife with little tasks that need doing, and we continue to make an effort across the board to ensure that people both know what these things are and are doing them. Deathsights might be the flashiest means for gauging winning, but they're not necessarily indicative of an organization's overall health.

This is late but I'd just like to mention. I killed somebody with my demesne by accident once because I had forgotten to uenenmy her, she got upset, so Sarrasri put me before Bandrui for it. I really wish Bandrui would get more use, she really is amazing. (Bandrui pardoned me but that's besides the point. <__<)

*continues reading thread*

I haven't been playing long...but from what I heard, it seems Glomdoring really busted their butts to get where they are

While in Serenwilde , I can honestly say that Tedd was an asshat to Glomdoring. Though something about Glomdoring really irks, and it is when somebody like Urazial keeps popping in and out, and Serenwilde finally musters a group to kill him, Glomdoring runs in and makes Serenwilde look the bas guys

Why is that?

What I feel is the most important part of the above paragraph.



Talan's right. You know, I used to hate Glomdoring, because I thought they just enjoyed causing trouble and rode on the coattails of some demigods. After having played a decent amount of characters in Glom, I've come to realize.. it's because Glomdoring gives a damn. They favour people who work to help out, they reward those who put forth effort, they don't "lulz cityfavour Soandso cause they make good cookies lulz". They demand respect, and they get it because..... they deserve it. They work, and they understand the importance of the work they do, and they enjoy the rewards from this hard work.

Whimpering and crying that "it's too hard, no fair, life sucks, suicide;agree" doesn't make things better. Being tough on your self and others to make sure you get what you want out of life (the game) is the most important thing.

Edit: Yeah, there are some people in Glom who just like to cause trouble. But for the most part, there are decent people in the commune.

Re: Fae - Xiran does it, Alacardael/Thul jump her noncombatant behind daily for it.
Re: Scholars - People try but you guys tend to raise TBC more than any other org. :|
Re: Village Quests - Why? Dwarves are all in Angkrag in Seren's case.
Re: Defiling - Only after midnight when Aerys leads it since we can't put up an actual fight.
Re: Domoths - Sometimes, but we still lose it.

That aside, I'm glad you showed up in this thread - from what I remember, I can recall a novice Talan defending Glomdoring back when we were still doing Nexus World Raids. You're one of the few current members of Glomdoring that can feel rightfully proud of coming however far it has, because you didn't just hop on the ShuWin Train. You ended up getting run over by it a few times too.

Overall, military might is usually going to be the measuring for an organization being up to snuff. Do you have the numbers necessary to keep the org alive? It's measured by villages and wildnodes, as you've said. If you don't, then your organization won't cater to to combatant-type players, since all they'll ever do is suffer defeat. 90% of them will pass you by for that reason, and your org tends to be stuck in military stasis until someone orghops.

The main reason my alt hasn't gotten involved in combat and hasn't helped Serenwilde (and as a player, I really do want to give them a hand from outside) is because I will, invariably, end up going against one of many of Glomdoring's demigods, all of whom have some position of power to enemy me, and then every village in the game is officially shut down to me.

I have to say, it sounds like you folks did a great job on staving off apathy. I think that's what a lot of people are suffering from in general, lately.

Well ouch I'd like to think I help out the team too from to time.

I already made a post about this somewhere on the Chronicles forum.

Ah, here it is:



With that said:



I've been part of Glomdoring for the better part of a year and 4 months now. I was part of Serenwilde far longer than that. Why am I expected to drop everything and jump ship more than others? I'd like to think I deserve to play wherever I want and for as long as I want as much as any other guy.

Yeah, I don't agree with that. Xiran isn't even a commune enemy.

So what I got out of that was that is that you shouldn't hate on Glom but you should hate on Celest.

This makes me feel the need to create more alts and help save the world.

I've been wanting to say this for a long time:

Because you're Tedd.

Not only were you an asshat to Glomdoring, but as soon as retribution came back to Serenwilde for all of your behaviour, you didn't lead a single raid defense, half of the time opting to just stand at Prime Mother and pretend like nothing was happening. Sometimes Glomdoring would have the decency to walk in, zap-train you to death, and leave, because that's really all they were there for. The rest of the time they made the players suffer for your sake. It wasn't enjoyable.

To make this post less full of long-simmering annoyance: there's a notable divide in Glomdoring between players like Talan/Shuyin/Sidd and players like Nienla/Urazial.

I'd say why, but most of us probably know by now, and this post is toeing the deletion line as is.

If the shoe fits, throw it at someone. There are entirely too many apathy-minded people in Celest who believe that they shouldn't have to help out, but they should be able to reap the rewards. Whereas, Glomdoring realizes they won't get anything if they don't work for it.


See: My sig.

I pop in because I'm pretty tired of Solanis' and Veyrzhul's AM raids. I'm not sure of what "divide" you're referring to either.

Edit: But yes, a lot of times we went to Ethereal Serenwilde just for Tedd.

Nienla is an ass to her foes, but pretty friendly if you are on her side. Nuff said.

The divide between 'decent' and 'utter waste of time'. The former tend to consider the negative effects on the org for their reactions, the latter will just hit and run for hours on end. Oh, and kill Xiran, too. At least I can give credit to Urazial for sticking with it even back during the Seren Glory Days.

The divide where you ran in and killed Gaudi's collegium mobs for the hell of it. I don't know what Vathael/Munsia did to you to provoke that, but Shuyin/Talan/Sidd never did it.

It's just that you are so super strong and super cool that everyone wants to be your buddy, and by be your buddy, I mean, have you win for them. This is the real reason I have never wanted to be your buddy. Masterful.