Announce 1609

by Ssaliss

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Ssaliss2010-07-25 19:16:24
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ANNOUNCE NEWS #1609
Date: 7/25/2010 at 18:54
From: Sior the Anomaly
To : Everyone
Subj: Changes

In preparastion for the forthcoming changes to demigod and ascendant
powers, two major changes have occurred.

Firstly, all ascendant cults have been destroyed.

Secondly, the Ascendance skillset is gone. 1/3 of the essence spent
learning it has been refunded (roughly 30m at trans).

Penned by My hand on the 3rd of Tzarin, in the year 270 CE.

Looking forward to it! biggrin.gif Then again, I'm not an Ascendant, so I'm not negatively affected (yet)...
Talan2010-07-25 19:27:29
I'm shocked that the amount of essence being returned is so low.
I hope I get my special honours line for having once been an ascendant so I can feel better about this soon sad.gif
Unknown2010-07-25 19:28:58
I hope the refunds can be fixed, though losing the skill makes it hard to tell how much was invested without going to a backup...

Really looking forward to things to come, though!
Gregori2010-07-25 19:31:48
yeah I am sort of annoyed that we invested so much time into a skillset, but they turn around and say "your time is only really worth 1/3rd of that"

Edit: it's not like we chose to forget the skillset, so it was a burden of our choice to make.
Ssaliss2010-07-25 19:33:17
I'm personally looking forward to what's in the infamous "essence shop" (if it'll actually exist, but I believe that's been more or less confirmed?), such as the long-awaited second tradeskill. Kinda doubtful given the endowment of the arts though, but I still cling to hope!
Malarious2010-07-25 19:33:36
QUOTE (Gregori @ Jul 25 2010, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah I am sort of annoyed that we invested so much time into a skillset, but they turn around and say "your time is only really worth 1/3rd of that"

Edit: it's not like we chose to forget the skillset, so it was a burden of our choice to make.


You are not being fully refunded because you did still get to use the skillset, at least you would have if Gregori was ever here.
Kante2010-07-25 19:35:07
QUOTE (Malarious @ Jul 25 2010, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are not being fully refunded because you did still get to use the skillset, at least you would have if Gregori was ever here.

...wut?

Edit: My condolences to the ascendents for their essence loss.
Ardmore2010-07-25 19:40:06
Why isn't 100% of it being returned? This is an admin-forced decision, not player. It's not their fault and they shouldn't be punished for it.
Ssaliss2010-07-25 19:43:30
Sior! I see you peeking there tongue.gif Any chance of a sneak preview of what's to come so we can start drooling?
Kante2010-07-25 19:47:59
QUOTE (Ardmore @ Jul 25 2010, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why isn't 100% of it being returned? This is an admin-forced decision, not player. It's not their fault and they shouldn't be punished for it.

I second this.
Unknown2010-07-25 19:58:01
And, 1/3rd of Transcendent should be 40M, not 30M.
Eventru2010-07-25 20:03:43
Yes, there was a bug (an extra /100 in there) - we did save how much was removed, so it'll be simple to restore the essence difference (just some math).

The 1/3 was decided a long time ago - I'm not really sure as to why, I simply remember players asking that a portion of the essence in Ascendance be refunded, and 1/3 was the number that was used.

I'm hoping people are largely happy with what comes in the endgame stuff once we bring it all over. There were some kinks (as was probably noticed today), which almost entirely resulted from the length of time it took to code some things and combining changes (some things were de-updated) over the months, so some stuff needs to be gone through with a fine-toothed comb before we're ready to release all of it.

I think, when all is said and done, people will be happy with the changes. I know we've made a concerted effort to please everyone (and ex-vernals will get more than a pretty flower in their hair).

(And yea, that was a typo on my part that caused Sior's announce to be off. It was actually 39,600,000 that should've been given back (the variance being due to how the skill system works or something equally beyond me)).
Ardmore2010-07-25 20:08:01
I know I will be happy with it because you're the figurehead of it and I wub you.

Yeah, I did just do that.

But I also want a pretty flower in my hair...
Malarious2010-07-25 20:08:36
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 25 2010, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, there was a bug (an extra /100 in there) - we did save how much was removed, so it'll be simple to restore the essence difference (just some math).

The 1/3 was decided a long time ago - I'm not really sure as to why, I simply remember players asking that a portion of the essence in Ascendance be refunded, and 1/3 was the number that was used.

I'm hoping people are largely happy with what comes in the endgame stuff once we bring it all over. There were some kinks (as was probably noticed today), which almost entirely resulted from the length of time it took to code some things and combining changes (some things were de-updated) over the months, so some stuff needs to be gone through with a fine-toothed comb before we're ready to release all of it.

I think, when all is said and done, people will be happy with the changes. I know we've made a concerted effort to please everyone (and ex-vernals will get more than a pretty flower in their hair).

(And yea, that was a typo on my part that caused Sior's announce to be off. It was actually 39,600,000 that should've been given back (the variance being due to how the skill system works or something equally beyond me)).


Sneak previews please?

Curious as to whats happening with ascendance and the upkeep on ascendants.. but..

as a demigod.. what are we looking at now?
Krellan2010-07-25 20:14:52
if all this endgame stuff is going to cost essence, I'm sure the ascendants would be much happier actually receiving all the essence we spent, so we can actually put it into these skills.
Eventru2010-07-25 20:16:07
QUOTE (Malarious @ Jul 25 2010, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sneak previews please?

Curious as to whats happening with ascendance and the upkeep on ascendants.. but..

as a demigod.. what are we looking at now?


Well, a lot of effort's been put into customization, because it seems to be something a lot of players want. So we tried to make it so you would be able to at least somewhat customize a lot. There's some hopes that it will address 'balance issues', and the final product really evolved out of the discussion that was had, with a lot of input from players. So the system itself is really a product of everyone who gave their input and opinions!

Cults was the big project for me (and what has taken a majority of the time), and is so ridiculously customizable (I can honestly say I can't think of anything else that could be customized!) I'm questioning if it's just so much in terms of opportunity that it will never be fully used to potential. However, I have complete faith in all the gods to prove me wrong and push the limits to the insane!
Shryke2010-07-25 20:16:56
I suspect it will be essence for temporary items, creating a permanent essence sink and making the grind neverending...

Posted for future quotage.
Eventru2010-07-25 20:19:44
QUOTE (Shryke @ Jul 25 2010, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I suspect it will be essence for temporary items, creating a permanent essence sink and making the grind neverending...

Posted for future quotage.


Spending essence for a temporary gain will be an option. You can spend essence for permanent things as well.

As an aside, as it was forgotten in the announce post, all ascendants can fly/land and use CLAIRSENTIENCE inherently now, as a perk for just being super cool. cool.gif
Malarious2010-07-25 20:20:49
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 25 2010, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, a lot of effort's been put into customization, because it seems to be something a lot of players want. So we tried to make it so you would be able to at least somewhat customize a lot. There's some hopes that it will address 'balance issues', and the final product really evolved out of the discussion that was had, with a lot of input from players. So the system itself is really a product of everyone who gave their input and opinions!

Cults was the big project for me (and what has taken a majority of the time), and is so ridiculously customizable (I can honestly say I can't think of anything else that could be customized!) I'm questioning if it's just so much in terms of opportunity that it will never be fully used to potential. However, I have complete faith in all the gods to prove me wrong and push the limits to the insane!


Will we be able to buy wings?

And... Dont suppose we are doing a Build your own race thing?
Kante2010-07-25 20:21:08
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 25 2010, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spending essence for a temporary gain will be an option. You can spend essence for permanent things as well.

As an aside, as it was forgotten in the announce post, all ascendants can fly/land and use CLAIRSENTIENCE inherently now, as a perk for just being super cool. cool.gif

Will there still be divinefire?