Eventru2010-07-26 00:54:46
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Jul 25 2010, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lendren's asking about how the new system affects demigods, since everything listed so far is about ascendants and avatars, not about demigods who want to be ascendants.
Ah. Well, demigods will have access to some neat stuff. I think Lendren will be happy with at least some of it. To be quite honest, "endgame PvPers" probably won't be very happy (as demigods over all will not be as strong as they were, or not for extended periods of time anyways), whereas those who want roleplay buffs and the like will be pretty happy, I think. There's just a lot they can play with and customize within reason. We tried to give a lot of variety.
And like I said, we'll be happy to consider new ideas and suggestions - it was pretty lacklustre last time around, if I remember correctly, but who knows about the next bout of ideas! The system was designed so we can add more as time and ideas allow, while not really unbalancing demigods. So hurrah for foresight?
Kante2010-07-26 00:56:56
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 25 2010, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah. Well, demigods will have access to some neat stuff. I think Lendren will be happy with at least some of it. To be quite honest, "endgame PvPers" probably won't be very happy (as demigods over all will not be as strong as they were, or not for extended periods of time anyways), whereas those who want roleplay buffs and the like will be pretty happy, I think. There's just a lot they can play with and customize within reason. We tried to give a lot of variety.
And like I said, we'll be happy to consider new ideas and suggestions - it was pretty lacklustre last time around, if I remember correctly, but who knows about the next bout of ideas! The system was designed so we can add more as time and ideas allow, while not really unbalancing demigods. So hurrah for foresight?
And like I said, we'll be happy to consider new ideas and suggestions - it was pretty lacklustre last time around, if I remember correctly, but who knows about the next bout of ideas! The system was designed so we can add more as time and ideas allow, while not really unbalancing demigods. So hurrah for foresight?
I squee'd.
Now I have more incentive to get demigod.
Ssaliss2010-07-26 00:58:48
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 26 2010, 02:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah. Well, demigods will have access to some neat stuff. I think Lendren will be happy with at least some of it. To be quite honest, "endgame PvPers" probably won't be very happy (as demigods over all will not be as strong as they were, or not for extended periods of time anyways), whereas those who want roleplay buffs and the like will be pretty happy, I think. There's just a lot they can play with and customize within reason. We tried to give a lot of variety.
And like I said, we'll be happy to consider new ideas and suggestions - it was pretty lacklustre last time around, if I remember correctly, but who knows about the next bout of ideas! The system was designed so we can add more as time and ideas allow, while not really unbalancing demigods. So hurrah for foresight?
And like I said, we'll be happy to consider new ideas and suggestions - it was pretty lacklustre last time around, if I remember correctly, but who knows about the next bout of ideas! The system was designed so we can add more as time and ideas allow, while not really unbalancing demigods. So hurrah for foresight?
Esano2010-07-26 01:12:18
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Jul 26 2010, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you know roughly how high the daily drain will be? Are we talking 1k, 5k, 10k, more? Also, what would happen if you ran out of power? Would "only" the guards be dismissed, or would there be more serious repercussions?
From memory, you lose guards, constructs, and possibly the ability to use discretionaries. I think you can still link power (although obviously that puts you further into negative power).
Basically, you're left a giant sitting duck.
Saran2010-07-26 01:13:39
QUOTE (Lehki @ Jul 26 2010, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's still a different mindset with 'this guy is costing us power' and 'this guy is preventing us from raising another ascendant' and I feel the former gives more incentive to strip inactive ascendants, but, eh, that's just what I feel.
"This guy has been our ascendant long enough, if we drop him down to demigod plus we can raise another with our current power"?
With a constant drain, it's a lot easier to justify dropping someone because they're inactive.
With a the cost growing for every ascendant, it's easier to justify dropping someone because they've had their turn and now it's time for someone else to have a go.
As long as ex-ascendant is still going to be better than demigod then there would be a point to having one step down after x time, if they go inactive then it's just more reason to do so.
Lehki2010-07-26 01:17:44
I dunno, if somebody was still being active and making good use of what ascendancy brings I don't think many people would be for stripping if just to give somebody else a turn at it.
Saran2010-07-26 01:29:09
QUOTE (Lehki @ Jul 26 2010, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, if somebody was still being active and making good use of what ascendancy brings I don't think many people would be for stripping if just to give somebody else a turn at it.
It would depend on what ex-ascendant is.
Then the orgs would need to look at their ascendants and see if they have 2-3 who are really making use of that difference, if not what's the point in keeping them as an ascendant.
Eventru2010-07-26 01:30:55
Ex-ascendant is somewhere between Ascendant and Demigod. There'll be benefits to being one, but you certainly won't be a full-fledged Ascendant.
Ssaliss2010-07-26 01:31:46
Given what the exact bonus for ex-ascendants will be (if any), there's always the likelihood of an org stripping them all and starting a super-demi-factory.
Unknown2010-07-26 01:34:27
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Jul 25 2010, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Given what the exact bonus for ex-ascendants will be (if any), there's always the likelihood of an org stripping them all and starting a super-demi-factory.
and then Estarra will turn them all into ponies. ^.^
Eventru2010-07-26 01:36:53
Sure, they could if they'd like. At 1.5m power a demigod, that is!
Saran2010-07-26 01:50:05
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 26 2010, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sure, they could if they'd like. At 1.5m power a demigod, that is!
Which could be worth it.
Maybe I just would like to see it as something that people are actually rewarded with... for a time rather than "Well... see you could get ascendant but you just need to wait until one of these three people stop logging in regularly, also they've been playing regularly for years"
Lorina2010-07-26 02:08:41
How expensive are we talking here? I manage a few million essence a week, but from what I heard about Ascendancy costing 110m....I won't be able to get anything cool
Ardmore2010-07-26 02:11:19
...all RP stuff, eh? So, I can have a customized aura and room entrance/exit message?
That's all I care about!
Don't disappoint me, Eventru.
That's all I care about!
Don't disappoint me, Eventru.
Lorina2010-07-26 02:12:45
Area-wide emotes!? Wait, those are called echos or something? I want all of Celest to know when I am angry.
Acrune2010-07-26 02:12:47
Hope I don't lose my bonus stats, if I do I think I'd have to change race
Rp stuff would be cool though, am definitely curious to see what people have come up with.
Rp stuff would be cool though, am definitely curious to see what people have come up with.
Shaddus2010-07-26 02:12:52
QUOTE (Ardmore @ Jul 25 2010, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...all RP stuff, eh? So, I can have a customized aura and room entrance/exit message?
That's all I care about!
Don't disappoint me, Eventru.
That's all I care about!
Don't disappoint me, Eventru.
Ardmore stands here, sweating buckets of lard.
Ardmore leaves to the east, the smell of a cooking roast following him.
Ardmore2010-07-26 02:13:33
QUOTE (Lorina @ Jul 25 2010, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Area-wide emotes!? Wait, those are called echos or something? I want all of Celest to know when I am angry.
The streets will run red with her blood! /flee
Lorina2010-07-26 02:14:14
QUOTE (Ardmore @ Jul 25 2010, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The streets will run red with her blood! /flee
Leave my ex-title alone >_>
Malarious2010-07-26 02:20:08
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 25 2010, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah. Well, demigods will have access to some neat stuff. I think Lendren will be happy with at least some of it. To be quite honest, "endgame PvPers" probably won't be very happy (as demigods over all will not be as strong as they were, or not for extended periods of time anyways), whereas those who want roleplay buffs and the like will be pretty happy, I think. There's just a lot they can play with and customize within reason. We tried to give a lot of variety.
And like I said, we'll be happy to consider new ideas and suggestions - it was pretty lacklustre last time around, if I remember correctly, but who knows about the next bout of ideas! The system was designed so we can add more as time and ideas allow, while not really unbalancing demigods. So hurrah for foresight?
And like I said, we'll be happy to consider new ideas and suggestions - it was pretty lacklustre last time around, if I remember correctly, but who knows about the next bout of ideas! The system was designed so we can add more as time and ideas allow, while not really unbalancing demigods. So hurrah for foresight?
Sooo... you are saying the majority of the players who tend to go through alot of credits will be the least happy about these changes while you are adding a bunch of new things to ascendants to unbalance combat and even giving bonus perks to people who were ascended previously because of admin oversight...?
I am hoping I am wrong as to what you are exactly doing. The way I see it demigod ddnt have many perks compared to ascendants to begin with. Refresh
Demigods are the majority of your endgamers and you are saying you didnt look to make them some neat things like domoth specs, or something? You put it all into a status that maybe 2% of the playerbase will ever be?