using multiple items at once

by Aubrey

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Aubrey2010-07-25 15:23:47
As shown in this post on the Tweets thread, it can be a huge pain in the rear to try to buy multiple things of the same kind at once. You have to keep doing WARES COOKIE, then BUY COOKIE12345, over and over to get the specific kind you want in multiples. If you just do BUY 10 COOKIE, you're gambling on which kind of cookie you're going to get. I've been told it goes by which one is numbered first on the stockroom floor, and that sounds about right. But this - and some other similar item issues - might be a lot less of a problem if it's possible to implement this idea I've had for a while...

Can we use more than one key word together to narrow our search field? Not just when shopping, but when picking things up, pricing things, pouring things, and whatever else. For example: you have 50 scrolls of healing on the floor, and 30 kegs. You want to pick up a keg with healing in it. But you don't want to do IH KEG or IH HEALING - even though both of those tags would work on the item you want - because you're going to get spammed either way and it's a pain to sort through so many ID numbers. With this new way, you could just GET HEALING KEG. Sort of like a search feature narrowing down by more specific tags. (For those of you trying this syntax right now, it will appear to work sometimes, only because it uses the first word, not the rest. I used to think GET APPLE JUICE worked with both words. Nope, just apple because it came first. GET JUICE also works but if there's another kind of juice available, you might get that one by mistake, depending on which number is first on the floor. But it's not that easy for everything, like if you had actual apples too, you'd still have to use the ID#.) Maybe there would have to be something linking the two, like GET HEALING+KEG, to make it easier on the code. I know one person already thinks there's a problem because 'healing' is a content while 'keg' is an item type. I still don't see why that's a problem, but I'm not a coder.

This would help a lot with vials, from what I can see. Let's say I have lots of vials. Some are ruby and some are sapphire. I want to drop the empty sapphire ones only. Not the empty rubies, not the sapphire ones with stuff in them. Just the empty sapphires. I could just DROP EMPTY+SAPPHIRE and not have to look through potionlist (or II for those unfortunate souls without potionlist) for each specific one. Hope I've made this clear enough. What do you guys think? Especially you who actually know stuff about coding...
Arimisia2010-07-25 15:36:20
have found the whole buying issue annoying as well, sometimes in the stockroom things get shuffled around to where you have like items but they are different, like right now i have platters in my shop, constitution ones and ones that were just given to me. it is like I have one one one two one two two one one and so on, I am not sure how they got all messed up like that. A suggestion to buying would be like.. BUY 10 COOKIE12345 - I can price like this so why can't I buy like this?

I have found it useful to do IH HEALING (or whatever I am looking for) for specific items. If you are just looking for one healing keg this should not be a problem. This is all I have been able to do with my shop and I never need to pick up my scrolls so those are not usually a problem. For me GET HEALING KEG could cause a problem cause I stock multiple healing kegs to begin with, so the IH feature works nice for me. Now, what WOULD be nice is that you could TAKE EMPTY KEG from stock room, as it is right now you have to TAKE EMPTY and if you sell vials, better believe you will be picking those up too which makes this a long tedious process. SO, I have taken to picking ALL my kegs up, put 50 empty in pack then dropping the kegs back. Either way, it is a slight annoyance.
Aubrey2010-07-25 15:38:35
It could work with IH too! Like IH HEALING KEG. Or whatever. And yeah, empties in the stockroom = nightmare. sad.gif
Unknown2010-07-25 18:19:59
If you have PotionList, you can just look at IH KEG and see what's in each, which you could in turn trigger to capture the IDs of the various types of kegs and sort them or manipulate them. I've had to make a little script to keep track of my poison kegs, since it's quite annoying trying to extract a bunch of different poisons into a bunch of different kegs... come to think of it, it would be nice if the extracting would skip the corpses that have already had the poison drained.
Shaddus2010-07-25 18:23:06
this would be awesome, so WARES WEED wouldn't also show weed cookies, a flaming weed pipe, kombu, and sargassum ( I think )
Unknown2010-07-25 18:24:21
I think you've misunderstood, Shaddus. No change to WARES, just BUY and a couple other things.
Shaddus2010-07-25 18:29:17
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Jul 25 2010, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you've misunderstood, Shaddus. No change to WARES, just BUY and a couple other things.

Well, whatever. I got the idea, but being able to specify what you're looking for, be it WARES COOKIE ALMOND or BUY 10 COOKIE ALMOND or PORTAL SEARCH SHOPS COOKIE ALMOND, it's all gravy to me.
Unknown2010-07-25 18:31:44
I think you'll find that you can already do that! (Except for the buying part, of course.)
Shaddus2010-07-25 18:46:03
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Jul 25 2010, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you'll find that you can already do that! (Except for the buying part, of course.)

Oh. Carry on then!
Talan2010-07-25 18:49:50
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Jul 25 2010, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this would be awesome, so WARES WEED wouldn't also show weed cookies, a flaming weed pipe, kombu, and sargassum ( I think )

Well, if they're already right there....

I wouldn't mind a argument or something for wares and also for portal search. For example PORTAL SEARCH SHOPS SAPPHIRE STRICT (or whatever designator you want to use) would only return shops that have an object whose root name is sapphire, rather than every dinky bracelet, pair of shoes, or cloak that has the word sapphire in its name -- in other words, just actual sapphire, or actual weed, etc. I kind of feel like for all riftables and potions it should automatically defer to this kind of search regardless... but since that becomes a preference I suppose, at least having the option would be nice.
Kante2010-07-25 18:52:04
QUOTE (Talan @ Jul 25 2010, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if they're already right there....

I wouldn't mind a argument or something for wares and also for portal search. For example PORTAL SEARCH SHOPS SAPPHIRE STRICT (or whatever designator you want to use) would only return shops that have an object whose root name is sapphire, rather than every dinky bracelet, pair of shoes, or cloak that has the word sapphire in its name -- in other words, just actual sapphire, or actual weed, etc. I kind of feel like for all riftables and potions it should automatically defer to this kind of search regardless... but since that becomes a preference I suppose, at least having the option would be nice.

Yes plz.