Well.

I understand that everyone's upset, and while I suppose this is one way to address the 'voting off the island' issue, the execution leaves much to be desired. Making a forum thread and asking for a wide sweeping change for all orgs and then admitting to venting just screams 'troll me' :/ Which is what's happened for a lot of the posts.

I think everyone's made a lot of good points, but I don't think the admin will do this just because they already have a lot on their plate on top of general player hate.

I mean, I think what can be taken from this is that the demis/ascendants/vernal demis have a lot of 'taking it' to do, but I hope the admin realize that they aren't really happy to do it, heh.

Idea: Administrators should just force-strip all VAs down to Vernal Demigods.

I mean, you're already doing this in general anyways, only the blame / ire is getting place onto the people who have to make the votes and hard decisions to 'remove' something that people have earned.

Just go ahead and do us all, then let us the players choose to pick who to re-raise as an organization. It's a subtle difference, but the 'punishment' is coming from the Administration and not creating as much resentment / division amongst the playerbase.

This removes the entire need for 'drain' as well. You can also figure out some power scheme so that re-raising them works out to about the same cost as now. And you can take the burden off our hands. We can either choose to raise new people at the normal (2mil-2mil-4mil-etc) costs, or re-raise a Vernal Demigod at the reduced cost.

Leave stripping it as an option for people who need to have it removed in the future for whatever reason; don't make us punish people who are still active and are still doing good things for our organization.

The whole situation sucks, and it's even worse that we're the ones who have to mete out the punishment.

Edit: Note, I haven't run this by anyone at all for thoughts / opinions. I am venting.

I knew Xenthos could be as bitter as I am. I knew you had it in you! All it took was a dramatic case of not having things fall your way! Welcome to the club. You should get descended and move to gaudi, and we can sit and sulk and plot the downfall of all things. And then not bother, because everything is doomed anyway, so why put forth the effort! Hooray!

Actually, I agree in part. Descend everyone. Then delete the whole concept of ascendance. No more special little snowflakes. Everyone has the same opportunities, and costs, and advantages. Easier to balance, and watch player morale go through the roof.


Edit- and to anyone calling Eventru forum biased, you're dramatically wrong. In fact, I've had a wall-of-text PM argument with him, where he was defending the org he's being accused of being biased against.

I can't take the 'no more special snowflakes' theory of game balancing seriously when that means you have to delete the entire concept of demigod and different classes so everyone will be the same.

Any schmoe can also become a VA, TA, T&A, or whatever A you want too, though.

Not everyone can bash to demigod because of time constraints or whatever else, and not everyone can afford to tritrans their class or even get that class to begin with (depending on their character).

What I am saying is it's extremely subjective to say 'everyone can make demigod, but not everyone can become an ascendant'.

Any schmoe can also become a VA, TA, T&A, or whatever A you want too, though.

(Also, Akui - sounding disconcertingly Hallifaxian over there, rallying against SLS!)

I knew Xenthos could be as bitter as I am. I knew you had it in you! All it took was a dramatic case of not having things fall your way! Welcome to the club. You should get descended and move to gaudi, and we can sit and sulk and plot the downfall of all things. And then not bother, because everything is doomed anyway, so why put forth the effort! Hooray!

Edit: Obligatory cry for the downfall of SLS here.

Idea: Why not just have an event where each nexus slowly begins to drain due to some Apocalyptic Eventâ„¢, and so the Ascendants pool all their energy to the nexus to save it. But in doing so they all lost their ascendancy.

Then the nexus is left with some weird effect that drains from an Ascendant after they're raised. That way people look like heros instead of losers.

Edit: I know Gaudi and Hallifax don't have any Ascendants. They can be excluded. Soulless attack, anyone?

Except Estarra already said no so its just fantasizing at this point.