I don't think a power that's solely bodyrezz would be worth the 30 weight/40 million essence it takes.

I also think the beast powers currently aren't worth it - they only last a few minutes once imbued and are only usable once a month, and take 15 weight/15 million essence per.

Can somone bump/repost Shuyin's list with details about the other powers/beast stuff?

What's the time length on them? It was supposed to be 1 hour, but I might've missed a 0.

A lot of the Ascendant powers could probably stand some reweighting / re-essence-valuing as well, but if it's solely body-rez it should probably be 10 weight and a few million essence to buy. It's not like there's a lack of other body-rez abilities.

The beast ability timers are bugged. It's supposed to last for a whole month, or so it seems.

in terms of body rezzing that cost 35k essence for the first body you resurrect. Think of it this way.

If essence turned into a nexus is 1 power per, then you will not even make 35k personal essence by killing 100 creatures and turning all the essence in for 100 power immolation, which also requires a body (the cost of said power's resurrection). Not only that, but you could just kill 50 creatures and let the essence respawn in them.

Now that alone isn't enough to justify changes to cost/weight since it is a convienence thing. But then you factor in 15 million essence to buy it, scaling costs and the relatively high weight, and now it no longer is worth it.

Why are avatars getting the nerf stick? At least put rez into Veneration instead of putting it into the "Cool Kids Country Club VIP Lounge" skill selection

Has the stuff in Veneration been posted somewhere yet? (if it has anything in it )

Will pilgrimage go through monoliths, nexus distort, shrine distort, village distort, etc?

I know it doesn't work on mono. I would say yes to the others too.

Lame.

(We already get soul ress for order members..)

Although they'll probably delete it now you reminded them of it.

Could someone please summarize the changes that are going to be made to the present Avatar powers - preferably in its own thread. At present, they haven't been changed at all. It still costs 10 million essence + whatever the god pays out of his/her essence pool, then 70 million for veneration (cult) + whatever the god pays out of his/her essence pool, yes? What exactly do we get for that?

Edit: Also, is it -only- cult essence that can be used to learn veneration, or can you also use your own essence pool without a 10% loss in the transfer process as well? I think it should be both. I always interpreted the ability to add your own essence to the cult pool as an emergency thing, in case you didn't have enough cult essence available there to use cult powers, and that made sense. Otherwise learning veneration will actually cost 133 million personal essence or 1.2 billion in collective offerings...it just seems so much. Clarification appreciated.

Xiel's put what is currently known up on his site. I'm holding off adding it to the Wiki until Eventru says it's at least first-draft done.

Someone told me that you do, in fact, lose all investments when you lose Demigod. Check back in two weeks or so when I get Demigod back!

All that's happening to Avatars is what has (able to learn Veneration) and what hasn't (removal of soul rezz). I don't see any plans to remove their two auras and add them to the demipowers system. (Should we? I don't think so, but you're welcome to offer an opinion! I'd think we've 'nerfed' demigods enough that we don't need to also make them pay for their avatar skills with limited weight points.)

Re your edit, only cult essence can be used to learn Veneration. Cult essence can be increased in one of two ways:

1.) You can offer essence to your god in any number of ways, of which a 10% bonus is given to your cult.

2.) You can transfer personal essence into the cult at a 10% loss rate. Give 1 million personal essence, gain 900,000 cult essence.

There's no differentiation between how it's gained (much like nexus power source - it doesn't matter if you linked a node or another nexus, all that matters is your current connection).

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