Demigod Tweaks

by Sior

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Nienla2010-08-13 13:20:51
QUOTE (Sior the Anomaly @ Aug 13 2010, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eleven pages!!


It's over 9000!?!?
Unknown2010-08-13 13:25:18
Barely even six pages from what I see. Clearly, someone needs to adjust his forum settings. wink.gif
Unknown2010-08-14 03:19:25
Ah right, before I forget.

If you are looking to balance some powers (DIVINEFIRE), another way to consider would be to make them only available as supernumerary, and not ephemeral.
Thendis2010-08-14 14:28:55
Was aegis really that powerful that it's 50 weight? Unless I am mistaken, both people need to be in the same area. So, team bashing (with an ascendant) or two people in a fight, either outnumbering one person or on even ground with multiple. Doesn't it kill both if the aegis giver dies? And I was under the impression that most kills involved a lock or instant kill.It's one of the abilities I would be most interested in having, should I somehow become an ascendant (any chance of it being available to demigods? no? damn.). Every time I see it I just think of putting it on a protegee, and then they worship me for feeling invincible dazed.gif

Anyways, I see a lot of divinefire hate. Switch their weights maybe? o.o

/rant-type-thingy
Esano2010-08-14 14:38:22
Aegis is local-area only. If the target is hit with an attack that would take them below 1 health, the entirety of that attack will then be checked against the caster's health. If the caster would not die, they take the damage. If they would, the target takes the damage (and dies). If either target or caster dies, the other takes a hefty hit to health, although this cannot kill you. It can, however, drop you to one health (leading to such situations as one person dying due to bleeding, the other being hit by the backlash, then dying to their own negligible bleed tick).
Xenthos2010-08-14 14:49:19
QUOTE (Thendis @ Aug 14 2010, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was aegis really that powerful that it's 50 weight? Unless I am mistaken, both people need to be in the same area. So, team bashing (with an ascendant) or two people in a fight, either outnumbering one person or on even ground with multiple. Doesn't it kill both if the aegis giver dies? And I was under the impression that most kills involved a lock or instant kill.It's one of the abilities I would be most interested in having, should I somehow become an ascendant (any chance of it being available to demigods? no? damn.). Every time I see it I just think of putting it on a protegee, and then they worship me for feeling invincible dazed.gif

Anyways, I see a lot of divinefire hate. Switch their weights maybe? o.o

/rant-type-thingy

Pretty much all of the Ascendant stuff is over-valued as well (both in weight and in essence). We've just been focusing on the Demigod costs for now, because if we can get those in line, it's easier to tweak the other stuff to be more in line with that (in my opinion, at least; that, and Demigod abilities affect more of the playerbase).
Ytran2010-08-15 23:04:33
ANNOUNCE NEWS #1626
Date: 8/15/2010 at 22:57
From: Sior the Anomaly
To : Everyone
Subj: Demigod and Misc Changes

o The costs and weights of most Demigod powers have been changed. Those
who "bought in" early, have no fear! You have been reimbursed the
difference in essence.

o Vernal Demigods can now have, at maximum, one Ascendant power.

o Vernal Ascendants will show up under HELP .

o Aetherbashing experience has been noticeably reduced.

o Power gained from totems and elder trees has been slightly reduced.

o Cost to use Gift lowered to 7500 essence.

o EvenHanded Blessing has been improved and limited to five times per
day, and has been given an equilibrium cost.

o Death Aura and Purity of Soul should now work properly, and have a cap
of 100.

o Nature Domoth ability Affinity now gives 12 DMP instead of 5.

o Fortunate Windfalls should now have a low chance of giving
powerstones, and randomly pick from a wide list of other commodities.

o Veneration has a few more abilities (up to Master now)

Enjoy!


Penned by My hand on the 8th of Dioni, in the year 274 CE.

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** An important change was previously not in the announce - divinefire now no longer cures health/mana/ego. It will only block mob attacks. **


When someone gets a chance, mind posting up the new numbers for essence/weight?
Unknown2010-08-15 23:07:07
QUOTE (Ytran @ Aug 15 2010, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ANNOUNCE NEWS #1626
Date: 8/15/2010 at 22:57
From: Sior the Anomaly
To : Everyone
Subj: Demigod and Misc Changes

o The costs and weights of most Demigod powers have been changed. Those
who "bought in" early, have no fear! You have been reimbursed the
difference in essence.

o Vernal Demigods can now have, at maximum, one Ascendant power.

o Vernal Ascendants will show up under HELP .

o Aetherbashing experience has been noticeably reduced.


Enjoy!


Penned by My hand on the 8th of Dioni, in the year 274 CE.

---

** An important change was previously not in the announce - divinefire now no longer cures health/mana/ego. It will only block mob attacks. **


When someone gets a chance, mind posting up the new numbers for essence/weight?


This comes -just- after I had my first aetherhunt today and had started to make alises and things for it =( Woe is me.
Yiila2010-08-15 23:12:44
Also my first one, the experience seemed just okay at 55...
Anisu2010-08-15 23:40:12
QUOTE (Shou @ Aug 16 2010, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This comes -just- after I had my first aetherhunt today and had started to make alises and things for it =( Woe is me.

Just try it out for now, I doubt they scaled it back to be equal to normal hunting.
Lorina2010-08-15 23:42:36
I love the new change in cost and weights...I just bought over half the stuff I want and I am going to have points left over!
Thendis2010-08-15 23:43:20
So... anyone going to post the new prices?
Thul2010-08-15 23:50:51
QUOTE (Thendis @ Aug 15 2010, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So... anyone going to post the new prices?


CODE
************************************************************
Name                         Supernumerary Weight  Cost                  In Use  
EndowmentOfBrawn             9                     2000000
EndowmentOfThought           9                     2000000
EndowmentOfLife              9                     2000000
EndowmentOfFortitude         9                     2000000
EndowmentOfVanity            9                     2000000
Refresh                      6                     1000000
DivineFire                   10                    2500000
CustomZap                    10                    8000000
Seek                         8                     1000000
CustomShout                  5                     8000000
CustomEnterMessage           2                     400000
CustomLookMessage            2                     400000
CustomTeleportMessage        2                     400000
SecondTradeskill             12                    70000000
Shrink                       3                     400000
Expand                       3                     400000
ChoiceShout                  2                     400000
ChoiceZap                    5                     1000000
PlanarQuickening             3                     6000000


Good news is that short of SecondTradeskill, you don't really NEED aetherbashing essence to get stuff right now.
Unknown2010-08-15 23:55:38
The new build essentially guarantees that you can get 3 stats, shrink OR expand, choicezap, choiceshout, custom look/enter/port, and have some free points left over as a demi, I believe, and it'll cost about 9 mil total to keep them all perm.

Also divinefire got the boot, yeehaw.

Much better, and good going smile.gif
Esano2010-08-16 00:00:33
For those interested in ascendancy stuff:
CODE
************************************************************
Name                         Supernumerary Weight  Cost                  In Use  
EndowmentOfBrawn             9                     2000000
EndowmentOfThought           9                     2000000
EndowmentOfLife              9                     2000000
EndowmentOfFortitude         9                     2000000
EndowmentOfVanity            9                     2000000
Refresh                      6                     1000000
DivineFire                   10                    2500000
CustomZap                    10                    8000000
Seek                         8                     1000000
CustomShout                  5                     8000000
CustomEnterMessage           2                     400000
CustomLookMessage            2                     400000
CustomTeleportMessage        2                     400000
SecondTradeskill             12                    70000000
Shrink                       3                     400000
Expand                       3                     400000
Affinity                     30                    15000000
Gift                         10                    8000000
Harvest                      20                    12000000
Aegis                        50                    25000000
JudiciousPresence            15                    8000000
EvenHandedBlessing           25                    12000000
Destruction                  50                    12000000
HavocCry                     25                    12000000
Thunderclap                  15                    8000000
FearAura                     50                    25000000
DeathAura                    30                    15000000
Urlife                       15                    8000000
BreathOfLife                 30                    20000000
SanctityOfBody               15                    8000000
PurityOfSoul                 30                    15000000
FortunateWindfalls           20                    12000000
Dispersal                    35                    18000000
CompatriotOfChaos            15                    8000000
QuietMind                    35                    18000000
PlenipotentiaryOfPeace       15                    5000000
PeacefulCompanion            25                    12000000
BeauteousWorkings            15                    15000000
OstensibleDreamer            50                    18000000
BeauteousThought             15                    80000000
KnowledgeAwareness           30                    12000000
IntrinsicUnderstanding       40                    15000000
DistantPerceptions           20                    10000000
Veneration                   0                     75000000
ChoiceShout                  2                     400000                
ChoiceZap                    5                     1000000              
PlanarQuickening             3                     6000000


Looks like the essence costs were roughly halved, and the supernumerary costs stayed the same.
Unknown2010-08-16 00:06:55
BeauteousThought was 80 points, now only 15. Awesome.

Thank You!!
Asmodea2010-08-16 00:33:21
Just a quick thought, would it be possible to add into STAT or somewhere, about which custom text/look/teleport you currently have selected. Unless there is and I have just missed it.
Gregori2010-08-16 00:34:51
CODE
CustomZap                    10                    8000000
CustomShout                  5                     8000000
ChoiceShout                  2                     400000
ChoiceZap                    5                     1000000


I am hoping that custom zaps are twice as powerful as choice zaps and custom shouts instakill everyone who has shouts on to explain the reasoning behind them costing double the weight points. I mean, I was under the impression the weighting was to prevent OP builds not to encourage people to use the premade stuff so the admins didn't need to spend 5 minutes reading 3 lines and clicking yes or no on approval.
Xiel2010-08-16 00:37:35
wub.gif Planning. I also tossed up the rest of Veneration that Lorina has too.
Nariah2010-08-16 00:40:55
Veneration is still 75 million. cry.gif

Other than that, great changes! Go go divinefire nerf!

Oh, also, an option to turn off entry/leave messages would be awesome. By setting them to 0 perhaps.