Oh, oops! That did come out wrong, sorry!

I meant without a secondary sibling having to confirm if it goes on long enough, I don't personally think this should be a short time, I originally said double to triple the normal time required.

Edit: Secondary meaning someone already in the family started it with someone not in the family, still needs someone in the family to confirm it.

Unless this has changed?

What she means is that when you bloodbond a sibling and they go inactive, it basically kills the family. Instead of having a confirm on the the inactive sibling's side, make them have to DENY it or whatever.

Two people bloodbond and found a family. Both are needed to add new siblings, but on has gone inactive. Allow the remaining sibling to bring in new siblings on their own.

That's something we can look into, though not sure if it is feasible.

Okay! So long as I explained it clearly this time!

I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet, but the marrying-in/marrying-out deal needs to be looked at. Maybe make people who marry out still count for half a person? As is, marriage is kind of...grr-anger because no one wants their family to shrink, because everyone wants to be a great house. It feels unfortunate.

Oops. I think you misunderstood what I was attempting to say, Estarra.

I don't think single parents are a good thing, but I was asking for a way for a parent in a married couple to adopt without the other one being present. My current wife isn't the most active, but I would still like a way to adopt without being forced to divorce and trying to find someone else to marry.

Maybe make the consideration period 24 months, but drop it by 12 months when/if the second parent also confirms it. As above, they would still need to be married.

What about starting the adopting process with one parent present? At some belated point the spouse has to agree to it before the confirmation, but it handles the time issue nicely. Like Phoebus's problem, she could start the adoption process and by the time Arte could get online, he could OK it and poof, new kiddo.

I think it's been said in the past that, if it's something both parents and the child want, they should manage to find 5 seconds together.

Beyond that, there's potentially a lot of underlying mechanical problems that could come up with that (and may require a full re-write of how the recogniition process is handled, too, I suspect)

Why will you not allow single parent families?

Not going to complain if it's too difficult to code, but I know not all of us can devote our lives to being around at convenient times. I've run into times where Nihmriel and I both want to adopt a kid but our schedules don't work out having both of us present as well as the adoptee. I live in the U.S. and she lives overseas, and who knows what timezones the kids live in! I don't think it would be awful for us to have the ability for one parent to start the process and have the other parent confirm later. A CL can start considering a VA and have the GMs confirm later, adopting a child at the Hall of Records is much less earth-shattering than that. If it's difficult to code, that's one thing, but rejecting it out of hand or saying "if you want it bad enough, you'll figure it out" is something different, especially when adopting a kid is essentially filing paperwork at an administrative office.

FAMILY TREE AN'RYSHE.

This family is dead, despite me still being active; I have no ability to bloodbond more siblings because it requires my other sibling be active; I can't adopt kids because it requires my wife being active.

It has been this way for a very long time.

Beyond that, even if I was to divorce / remarry, it's still quite likely to end up in the same boat just due to how active people tend to stay. Lose the next spouse and again it's pretty much done for. So my options are to join a larger family, or just not participate in the family system at all (which is what I'm doing right now).

I'm not convinced it's a good thing for the system to be so inflexible that it's pretty much always better to just not participate / enjoy it unless you are entering into a larger already-established family.

Estarra said they'd at least take a look at bloodbonding.

Does this apply to your situation? Or does being married prevent you from bloodbonding?

I don't remember that ever being there.

It would be nice to find a solution to the bloodbond thing. Would it be difficult to have it so that if a sibling is inactive for an RL month or something to not require their permission? Or to double/triple the length of the consideration time before finalization? If you stop playing a character for a long time, it sort of indicates that you probably don't care that much about family business anymore (and if you leave for other reasons, you probably aren't trying to screw the rest of the family). Maybe a CONFIG FAMILYTRUST ON/OFF to allow siblings/husbands/wives to not require your permission for adding new people if you haven't signed in after a certain time?

EDIT: That wasn't always there, about the bloodbonding thing. I haven't even heard of it until now! When did that come through?

A while ago, when multiple bloodbonds was put in.

I think the word should is a very dangerous word, and it needs to be used responsibly. . That said, time to go find a new brother(sister?)