What ticks me off is that we already had this bloody conversation, way back when the skill was in test.

Once the powers actually go live in their finalized state, and we've already purchased it, now we're being told it's bugged when we said it worked like this on test and had the entire discussion, stating that a ranged soul-rez needed to stay in the game.

I'm fine with upping the weight to 40 on the thing, but making it absolutely bloody useless is complete rubbish. It already costs an insane amount of essence just to buy the ability to use it in the first place, and then the cost increments as you use it and gets prohibitive very quickly.

There's a huge difference between reviewing costs and neutering abilities, here.



Also: 80m missing essence is still missing!

There's a big difference between 'neutering abilities' and 'fixing bugs'. I'll certainly talk it over with Estarra and Sior before I fix it, however. And we can talk about refunding the cost of those few who have the rezz skill if it is so desired.

And the only thing I remember being brought up was that it was soul-rezzing, not game-wide.

The entire discussion was that if you were removing Avatar Rez, you needed to replace it with something similar so that all orgs still had access to it. Avatar Rez was soul-rez, yes. It was also game-wide (restored the person to life at their soul, just as BoL does now).

Further, for most of the game, Purity of Soul only works if you have purchased Breath of Life (immolate is rubbish for many reasons). So that's a second power on top of the first that's getting neutered by this change as you're proposing it.

Just up the weight to 40, that's a pretty decent change and lets life go on. Literally!

I miss avatar rez a lot. 250k essence and limit of once per game-day was fair I think. I would not mind having this ability with these restraints back, whatever you do with lol-35k-essence-unlimited-soul-rez-VA-power.

I am (awkwardly) siding with Xenthos on this. Given all the prerequisites, it's a really damn fine ability and I'd hate to see it altered. The rest of the Ascendant powers wouldn't see anywhere near as much use on me.

I am fine with Avatar rez making a come-back too; as I stated in that other thread, I'd like these things to be more widespread, not less. I argued against removing Avatar rez in the first place, as well.

More rez options > Fewer.

Though adding a 250,000 essence cost to it when your organization is one of the few lacking corpse destruction skills is a big 'ugh' in the Great Game of Grief.

FYI, no organizations lack corpse destruction at this point.

Font of the Gods is available to all.

Let's go for 'built-in', then, and not requiring several hundred credits.

(Though the value of the griefing game as a whole is pretty debatable.)

It is, but that's where the game's at at the moment, so soul-rez is pretty required.

And as such, I totally support making it cheaper, so I can better keep my losing commune's morale up!

It does not need to be cheaper than what it is now. I feel like it's pretty good as-is.

Add back Avatar-rez, keep its once-a-day restriction, make it 100k (since it has no up-front purchase cost), and go from there. BoL is better because you can do it more than once a day.

Up the cost to 40 weight for BoL.

This is the least-coding-required solution, only tweak is one to supernumerary weight and one to make the 250k for Avatar rez 100k instead.

Would be less coding if the people who do have it bought have the space for 10 more points. I know I don't.

Yes, well, I have tons of space left because I have been waiting for them to review weights.

Hm.

Yes, bring back Avatar rez! It wasn't breaking the game at all and removing it just so that Ascendants could have a shiny toy is a rather lame reason. It dumbs down Avatar which, IMO, ought to be even more prestigious than silly nexus sucking empowerment. God-imbued powers > nexus power. Just sayin

Maybe we'll get it back as a cult ability?

As echoed above, Avatar rezz was game wide soul rezz. You say that you are skeptical because the only soul rezz abilities have steep costs like sacraments killing the user. However, if you think about the 250,000 essence cost of avatar rezz. That is the cost of Phoenix on prime. So it cost of your life for anothers.

Breathe of life should be more costly.

Avatar rezz should come back.

Sacraments soul rezz and resurrection amulet are the only soul rez that require the soul to be in the same room.

Any chance VD's could be open to more ascendant powers? They are currently costly and with the weighting system, we'd be sacrificing what are typically deemed as must haves, to get more Ascendant powers such as increased stats, zap, divine fire, etcera.

Also thanks for finally looking at destruction! Please announce post or some such when it is "fixed" so that we can test it out and make sure that it's uh...not out of whack

Also trackers, when they're available.

80,000,000 essence refund please!

80 million please. Everyone considers the refund were breath of life changed from it's current incarnation. Everyone is given 1 free reincarnation (100 credits) whenever races are changed. (those with cameos get nothing).

Point is, 80 million essence is significantly more investment on the player part than either of these other refunds.