Uh, why? Something wrong with it?

It just feels like a kick in the gut if they implement such an obviously Hallifax-oriented village that goes immediately to Glom and stays there.

I wonder how Gaudiguch feels about Dairuchi.

Apples and oranges.

Dairuchi was released years before Gaudiguch was.

Talthos was released after an obviously Hallifax-oriented event, which players in Hallifax helped to "unlock".

Equally bad, I wouldn't be surprised, though they didn't have to undergo an event to release it, on the other hand!

Would you rather they just converted all the denizens to Shadow Faelings and moved the village to just outside Glom?

Because I wouldn't mind that.

No, but we've had a couple of events that have had us go into the village, only to get sneered at by the Glooms.

That does suck, yeah. Then again, winning org momentum, blah, blah, every org has its day, blah. It reminds me of how kids justify hazing by 'well, we dealt with it, and you'll get your turn someday.' :/ I realize that's something of a hyperbolic metaphor, but still.

Leave hazing alone, it is fun.

My tweet:
We may not win villages like Glomdoring but we are totally owning the library and theatre system this game year!
Congrats Sylandra, Tsianina and Nihmriel.

I keep missing the dates for submitting for our theatre, hopefully I'll be online the same time it's going.

It's a bit disheartening to hear people say they wish they didn't have to 'undergo' events - as though our efforts to make the game enjoyable and give you all something to do is a negative thing?

It's probably going to fall on deaf ears, but it was Hallifax who brought in, and asked for help from, Glomdoring. They would have easily gotten to Frosticia on their own via Aethership and without Glomdoring knowing, except that they asked Glomdoring for use of their icicle. The event, from the beginning, was geared directly at Hallifax - it was they who brought in other people. I guess the moral of the story is 'when you're given lemons, don't ask Xenthos to make you lemonade'?

I realize you feel somewhat burned by the turn of events, but I can't help but feel like there's no substantiated reason to be surprised or upset regarding it. Which might not be what you want to hear, but. I guess in the future we can just dispense with events and just give you guys tells - but I doubt that's really what anyone wants.

Xiel, I wasn't talking about village feelings for this particular revolt but when orgs start with +3, I don't think I'd want to bother much. And in a PEACED village, alas.
I like that, lol.

This is sigging material, someone fix it up.

That shouldn't be happening very often anymore. Conquest governments with competing villages shouldn't have them both at max feelings anymore (though it may take more tweaking to get it there).

Not sure I understand how a village necessarily 'belongs' to any org. Didn't that claim used to be made about Angkrag? Unless they changed the undead thingy since I was gone (certainly possible, I miss a lot!), Magnagora has a significant advantage, yet Glomdoring still manages to hold it.

I dunno, I'm out of the loop!

Was there really an alternate path for Hallifax, though? We can't pretend they had a chance in hell against any of the Protectorate when it came to violence. Attempted peaceful involvement lead to explosions, man-eating horror plants and screaming NPCs that drew in the Magnagoran Troll Brigade. Even if they did take an alternate route, it wouldn't have stopped the Ptoma Effect.

As much as it makes me squeal to see Hallifax bitter towards their allies (<3 <3 <3) I don't think anyone's putting down the admin for making the village and event in the first place. Simply the perceived 'work' in making something come into existence from an in-game perspective makes people feel attached and somewhat entitled. Especially when the spotlight's been on them from the start.

I could have flown us to Frosticia and been in the events post!!

I feel like the real problem, more than anything else, is that it is a primary gem producer. The bonus production isn't that pronounced unless you really dump rockeaters in, but it is important. This obviously makes it desirable to Hallifax, in addition to the atmosphere and flavour of the village itself, but given the demand for gems for anything and everything, so does everyone else. It's also the only village besides Estelbar that produces grain! It produces small amounts of metals that can't be stymied by moving miners or geomycus around, nevermind the silk, which you don't need to manage and corral spiders for.

Dairuchi, on the other hand, will produce mainly marble, milk, meat, and leather when it doesn't have silk spiders. Glomdoring is especially not lacking with any of those four M's. It is NOT a competitor village with Talthos, and has been paired with it (seemingly) strictly for racial reasons. This has the consequence of one village having a decidedly better comm spread, which won't happen between Delport and Stewartsville, etc.

The decision to make Talthos a top priority was made shortly after we got the first tithe reports on the revenue logs. I don't foresee a decision to change that unless Dairuchi is adjusted to start producing material types that are more comparable, particularly in use and rarity. That might be the direction to take things, though I'm not sure it'll happen due to Dairuchi's current flavour.

In response to Eventru, my statement that I almost wish Talthos hadn't been released was the product of the sort of cyclic bitterness that I'm probably going to have every time it comes up for revolt and is claimed by Glomdoring, as it almost certainly will. It's a nice village, and when I'm not being stared in the face by a humiliating result I think the event was fun, but I also don't think there was much choice as to an 'alternative path.' What we got was pretty much the only result I think we could have gotten, and it's not that great a result, and won't be until Glomdoring either stops focusing on Talthos (see above, won't happen) or loses its hegemony (who even knows about that).

And with regard to not bringing in Glomdoring-- damn, man, those Protectorate goons really goddamn hurt, especially when the exploded and especially with Hallifax's common fire penalty. Combined with their sheer numbers and the fact that both Magnagora and Glomdoring already knew what was up, the latter because they'd been tagging along with us since the start and the former because of the aforementioned Magnagoran Troll Squad, which had been running around listening to the goings on as well, there was essentially no chance of 'going it alone,' as seems to be suggested.

How long has it been since Seren had Estelbar?