See, you do want an easy button. Yes TK's are easier to hit with throatlock but that goes back to the whole skills get better in groups argument. How fast does it take for 2-3warriors to get someone to heavy/crit head? Not very long.

and that's the different between squall/scissor. Scissor is incredibly, incredibly more useful in more situations, you just agreed with us that it's not a skill to use in all sorts of situations in some attempt to say that we're downplaying squall, that's why squall is free, it's very situational and unpredictable. Scissor is 10000000times better.

We need a new tweets thread for 2011!

... No, I don't want an easy button. I'm saying that a TK helps us pull it off faster and more reliably. End statement.

And yes, Scissorkick is better than squall, but you can't spam Scissorkick solo and make yourself nearly immune to confrontation. Yes, you can choose who to kick out - but in the context everyone is specifically referencing, that doesn't even matter. As a 1vLots survival skill it's just spammable.

I don't actually mind attaching a 1-2p cost, it'll be delicious though when people still complain even with that. Then I can just tell them to shut up.

Still doubt the spam would taper off, squalling 5 times (assuming a generous 2p per) is still a lot and the smart crow user will have bailed long before needing to do it 5 times in a row.

RE: chasing via scent - you guys have Iasmos who's more than willing to code in updates for treant for serens only or whatever it is he does, I'm sure he can make something readily available to you guys. There's also the imap which you can trigger to chase, and mudlet has the capability to do so, and so on.

We only got this one in October 2010

Wow. It's huge...

I have a whole new system that replaces Treant!

That's what she said.

I was going to say this, but I thought it would be too lame.

It sure seems so when you are trying to say that warriors don't have the means of sticking aeon. They do, they just have to work for it. Bringing in the TK argument to compare it doesn't really bolster the argument that you aren't looking for an easy button. Yes having a tk/wiccan/whatever hitting some aff that stops you from sipping/eating while hitting wane is easier, but that doesn't mean you can't pull it off. The same argument applies with choke, if I just choke you right away, you'll just run/tumble off before I get eq back, or even worse, turn it on me. If I do it in a group, it's downright deadly, as are lots of group combos. But for 1v1 it still requires setup to be useful at all, the same with aeon/wane.

I also find it ridiculous that you're trying to state that squall should cost power so you can't spam it in the few situations where it's useful and to top it off comparing it to scissor that costs 5 power that we all agree is better and more useful. Yes, squall is a great situationally useful tool, but it's very very situational.

We are Lusternians, we complain about everything.

That's what she said jokes are never too lame. They're always just lame enough!

I've been under the impression that Iasmos was pretty much done doing that stuff. And yes, you'd think with imap and all that, people would have no trouble with it.

I'm not even sure what point I'm getting at hear. Seren doesn't have enough people that care enough to bother with this stuff, I guess?

Well that's a bummer, ask Mag to help you out more I guess.

Does a 1-2p cost matter when, evidently, nobody would use it in groups anyways due to the oft-lamented friendly fire effect? I doubt it. I'm finding it ridiculous, myself, that you're trying to take 'scissorkick is better in a situation where we wouldn't use squall anyways' as justification for it being spammable when someone's on their own. Even at 2p, 5 squalls should be enough time for someone to get away, as Sojiro said. Hell, it'll be more than 5, but at least it would actually cost something.

Obligatory Hallifax needs a timed insta plz.

My new system is only for well-established members of Serenwilde. I'm just done helping everyone in the whole world with this stuff.

It's kind of ridiculous that all these lovelorn respawn in the same spots and end up in big clumps. Almost everytime I've seen one there's been 4-6 in a room, with somebody already standing there waiting for them to open. Always feels awkward going after mobs when somebody else got to the room first. o_o

EDIT: Figures as soon as I say this I find a bunch of free ones that are spread out.

The scissor costs 5p, squall is free argument was brought up a long time ago, hence the comparision. I was stating just why scissor costs 5p vs squall being free. And if 1-2p isn't going to change what you're complaining about, then why even suggest it, it seems you just want it to cost power so you can claim some sort of victory over those evil crow people. HaHa now you have to spend power to spam that!

The tone of your past few posts is pretty much implying what you're almost explicitly saying here: I'm out to get Crow! I have a vendetta!

Even if I hated Xenthos with all my soul it'd be unreasonable to have a vendetta against a skillset. A 1-2p is going to change what I'm complaining about. A Druid can't just sap and run and spam squall until they restore power, for instance. If you catch people at low power reserves they can't just spam it, either. It's a limiting factor and people will be more able to work around it.