Ministry of Magic Mafia

by Mirami

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Unknown2010-12-12 15:50:55
QUOTE (Solanis @ Dec 12 2010, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We usually have lots of lurkers. I'm more for being more aggressive in persecuting these foul people.


Erm, were you not lurking pretty hard yourself up until your last two posts?
Diamondais2010-12-12 16:21:14
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Dec 12 2010, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Erm, were you not lurking pretty hard yourself up until your last two posts?

He has the same amount of posts right now as I do, so yeah, pretty lurkerish all considering.

(Though I'm really not doing any better at this point, shall have to make it up sad.gif )
Ileein2010-12-12 16:54:40
This event IG has distracted me somewhat. I've been trying to contribute as much as possible, however.

With regard to random lynching: I'm really not sure on this. Lynching lurkers is usually a relatively good idea (or as close to one as can be had on Day One). However, lurkers usually don't do much harm, either, unless they're fake lurkers-- which can usually be detected by checking to see if they're actually coming onto the forums.

Harry and Fudge really should be doing all they can to avoid placing suspicion onto themselves at this point, which presumably includes not lurking.
Gleip2010-12-12 20:48:30
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Dec 12 2010, 05:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if all else fails, you can certainly talk about me! See, isn't this already much more interesting than most Day 1's?

It's also nice to see Gleip on the move, when he's typically rather lurky unless something is eating at him.



Really? Astonishing, you say? Interesting choice of words.



What a lovely load of hyperbole. That's so your style - goad people until they give up and go along with it. But be careful, you know how this tends to work out for people on these forums.



I would guess that they aren't as comfortable with the implications that could be made if they lynch a townie.



Finger of Suspicion. It's kind of a half-vote that's not a real vote, but directs a sense of unease at the person in question. I'm not fond of using it and would rather people just call things into question as they would, then use their vote as they see necessary.

Excuse me? Lurking? Just because I don't post tons of posts with pretty much no content doesn't that make me a lurker. If anything, I am the least lurky person around because my posts are full of actual content. Lurkiness is not measured in number of posts but the actual content of the posts.

Yes, I'm pushy and aggressive, and I get easily aggrivated, especially so when I'm town. Remember the last two games I got aggro? I found scum there as well. Yes, I may not be a Kira who can determine the whole scumteam by the end of day one, but I know mafia theory, and you really have a lot going for you.

You asked for others to reveal information about themselves or if they had figured something out on your first post on day one.
You suggested that scum may have a way of knowing whom everyone is, with nothing but a single death to base it off.
You came out with a roleclaim on day one before anyone asked for it.
The roleclaim is for a bit character so far removed, most people, me included, wouldn't remember the character.
You claim vanilla. Pretty scummy in itself due to the nature of these forums and that being your go-to claim, but in this game we have people able to use more than one power each night. Multipowers and vanillas do not go over very well.
And hey, with that last post we can add personal attacks to the list.

Personally, yes, I am fully convinced of your scumminess.
Trinit2010-12-12 21:36:06
Whoa, whoa. Slow down, that wasn't a personal attack, that was Vendetta just giving you an FoS. Also, I don't see how vanilla claim = scummy, wouldn't an actual vanilla claim vanilla and not claim a power they can't actually use?
Ileein2010-12-12 22:26:26
I would just state for the record that while Gleip can be accurate with his aggro, I still find early-game aggro very, very annoying, just because there's so little to go on.
Jack2010-12-12 22:35:32
QUOTE (Ileein @ Dec 12 2010, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would just state for the record that while Gleip can be accurate with his aggro, I still find early-game aggro very, very annoying, just because there's so little to go on.

ANNOYED BY AGGRO EH I FIND THAT VERY SUSPICIOUS PERHAPS YOU'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE MISTER
Diamondais2010-12-12 22:40:35
QUOTE (Ileein @ Dec 12 2010, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would just state for the record that while Gleip can be accurate with his aggro, I still find early-game aggro very, very annoying, just because there's so little to go on.

Yes, being so aggressive on the first day can be terribly annoying, especially so if you're the target, or you have reason to believe the person being targeted is innocent. I'm more willing to side with Gleip, he does make a few good points, Vendetta's claim was uncalled for. Vanilla is an easy claim and one used often by scum to slip under the radar, after all it's hard to disprove someone is vanilla, just as hard as it is to prove yourself to be vanilla.

I don't want to guess the mod about why there is a lesser known character in the game, there very well could be a purpose. From what little I know of my role, I seem to be a well known character, it's been so long since I've read the books and I've really only read the last couple once each, when my character seemed to have become more important so.. I'm not really sure what to make of Vendetta's claim, it just seems too convenient in a way because it's vanilla and for the reasons I explained just above about vanillas.
Casilu2010-12-12 22:56:14
QUOTE (Feyrll @ Dec 9 2010, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blimey! Could've used her.



QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Dec 9 2010, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meh.

I'm going to assume there's other people with powers out there, who might have a better handle on things or are interested in sharing a little insight.



QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Dec 9 2010, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's unfortunate that an investigator type got axed on night 0 before anything happened. Hopefully scum got lucky rather than it being something else. So, I guess to honour tradition, I will start with a day 1 random vote.... random.org says 11 - Gleip.


I said I was suspicious of someone earlier and I wanted to wait until more information was provided in posts. The time has come.

I'm going to VOTE: FERYLL for the following reasons:

1. Mourning the dead is a classic scum tell and those three posts up there show it. I'd watch out for the other two mentioned then, but I want to focus on Feyrll for the moment.

2. Feyrll was more or less lurking (good plan on day 1 craziness when you're scum) until you're called on it. She only started posting when we were talking about lynching inactives.


However, with the above, I'd be more than willing to switch my vote to Vendetta, Gleip, if you make a bet with me. If Vendetta comes up town from a lynch, then we lynch you tomorrow. No night-killing, we lynch. Is that a deal?
Feyrll2010-12-12 23:36:13
Eh, I didn't know mourning the dead was a no-no, but I'll remember that for future reference.

In other news, given the 'bomb' dropped by Allectro and players finally starting to prod at each other in the hopes of eliciting telling reactions, I may be retracting my vote for Vendetta. I'm pretty busy so I by default can only 'lurk' if I want to keep up with what's going on, (read: procrastinate but not commit), but tomorrow if it's not beyond the 24 hr line, I'll review everything and maybe adjust my vote or at least make a more contributing post.
Casilu2010-12-12 23:37:18
QUOTE (Feyrll @ Dec 12 2010, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh, I didn't know mourning the dead was a no-no, but I'll remember that for future reference.


Which is what makes it such a good tell. biggrin.gif
Feyrll2010-12-13 00:01:22
QUOTE (casilu @ Dec 12 2010, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which is what makes it such a good tell. biggrin.gif



That...doesn't really make sense to me but I'll roll with it.
Unknown2010-12-13 00:05:48
Man, I always pity the (townie) dead, and I think I've only ever been assigned to scum once. ohmy.gif

I'm still really undecided at this point who is the safest bet. The three people who are on my radar, so to speak, are Feyrll for her dodgy behavior (It could be RL, we all have that, but it could also be a ploy. I've seen her in the thread a lot.), Vendetta for the weird unprovoked vanilla claim. Like I said, I'm not going to hold the obscure name drop against her as I already stated I have an even more obscure role from the Potterverse (Unless my role is just severely underwiki'd despite being a bigger player in the books/movies, but that doesn't make sense). And honestly Gleip is just on my radar because he's being pretty emotional very quickly. I'm not disregarding that he makes good points, but emotional players always give me a sense of unease. Like they're trying to pump up the mob to go with them.

I'll go ahead and UNVOTE my random vote on him from earlier, but I haven't made my final decision yet.
Lilia2010-12-13 00:38:26
I don't think we should be focusing on the relative obscureness of a roleclaim. If we were all well know characters, wouldn't it be too easy to guess who everyone was? I could easily come of with a list of sixteen people from the Ministry, the Order, the Death Eaters, Hogwarts, and the DA. I mean sixteen for -each- of those groups, and we don't even have all of them. It's probably safer to not include all the important roles, don't you think?
Unknown2010-12-13 02:37:33
QUOTE (Lilia @ Dec 13 2010, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think we should be focusing on the relative obscureness of a roleclaim. If we were all well know characters, wouldn't it be too easy to guess who everyone was? I could easily come of with a list of sixteen people from the Ministry, the Order, the Death Eaters, Hogwarts, and the DA. I mean sixteen for -each- of those groups, and we don't even have all of them. It's probably safer to not include all the important roles, don't you think?


There are more than 16 important characters anyway.

I'm going to go ahead and Vote Vendetta.
Unknown2010-12-13 04:08:14
QUOTE (Gleip @ Dec 12 2010, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The roleclaim is for a bit character so far removed, most people, me included, wouldn't remember the character.


You know, there's been mixed reactions to this if you look through the thread. There is a general opinion that the character is minor, but not "so far removed" as to be a total voiceless bit.

This, along with your accusation of "personal attacks" just feels like you're trying too hard to reach. I am by far the most openly and obviously suspicious person in the game right now - why are you unable to focus on anything but me?

Casilu has some interesting points, but nothing I'd be as eager to latch onto. Rather, I think we have a better opportunity with...

QUOTE (Solanis @ Dec 12 2010, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are more than 16 important characters anyway.

I'm going to go ahead and Vote Vendetta.


Okay. Several posts back, you said you >50% trusted my claim, which was itself odd to just throw out almost entirely by itself. Then you recommend pressuring lurkers, after which I point out you've basically been lurking the whole time. You then ignore this, just to vote for me, without anything even vaguely resembling insight.

I'm pretty well convinced you are lurker-scum at this point.

Vote: Solanis
Mirami2010-12-13 04:34:50
VOTECOUNT


Vendetta (3): Gleip, Feryll, Solanis
Casilu (1): Phoebus
Feryll (1): Casilu
Solanis (1): Vendetta

DEADLINE: 24 hours from the time of this post.

All y'all have 24 hours to decide who to lynch. At the deadline, the person with the most votes will be lynched. If it's a tie, no lynch.



Unknown2010-12-13 04:36:28
Yes, I am a lurker. I also don't like lurkers. But I struggle to find things of insight to say. My lurkiness tends to decrease as the days progress. But it's day 1.
Unknown2010-12-13 04:40:42
QUOTE (Romertien @ Dec 12 2010, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
VOTECOUNT


Vendetta (3): Gleip, Feryll, Solanis
Casilu (1): Phoebus
Feryll (1): Casilu
Solanis (1): Vendetta

DEADLINE: 24 hours from the time of this post.

All y'all have 24 hours to decide who to lynch. At the deadline, the person with the most votes will be lynched. If it's a tie, no lynch.

I unvoted!
Unknown2010-12-13 04:40:54
The >50% thing was a justification for why I wasn't voting you at that point in time. I felt more strongly against you after Gleip's post and voted, wanting to move things along.