EDIT: for some reason I thought it was Esano who asked for pictures and not Othero. Whatever, I STAND BY IT

Edit: Huh, nothing to see here. I just followed Shamarah.

Please delete this post + Rika's so this thread ends on its highest note.

No, I'm going to let it die out on its own, likely with a few people attempting, and painfully failing, at humor.

What's so wrong about dying when defending? What, you lose precious experience (bash, influence, abash), power defenses (hunt for essence, Prime power quest), pride (no solution)? You don't have to defend, but why won't you? It's not too much of a loss when you lose, because mechanics in Lusternia make sure you regain whatever you lost easily. Heck, I've lost Demigod 3 times (one on defense, one on offense, one on a Faethorn fight), and I'm still obviously up and running.

If a supermob dies, so what? We have four Elemental planes to harvest essence from, plus Xion, plus killing things. Nexus shield died? Oh no, our stockpiled power! Etc. etc. It's a game; you choose when to have fun and when not to.

You would think after the first time you would've bashed up a sizable buffer.

But yeah, xp loss defending your own plane is fairly negligible, unless you're like deciding to run back up and immediately die again 50 or so times. (Though in all honestly, if you were to do that, most raiders would just leave - I've seriously seen raiders leave out of pity.)

I am a bad spender. I want the demigod powers badly, and so forget that I need buffers when fighting .

That's part of the point, though - experience, and Demigod, is so easy to gain/regain nowadays. Dying for defense is negligible. Even dying for offense is easy to get back.

I can, I like the talk first attitude and it's appreciated. There's still the opportunity to resort to violence if that fails
I also had a good encounter with Arte when he was with Hallifax; he helped me out of Hallifaxan statues instead of just euthanising me.

That's good to hear, even though that was awhile ago. For what it's worth, I did try to convey to some combatants in Hallifax the message that I don't want us just pummeling Gaudiguch. Right when the raids first began, I tried to make sure that we weren't trying to be dicks, for lack of a better word, but that it was just raiding. You go in, attack Elemental Lords or whatever, and only attack those who attack you. The amount of raids has been increasing, yes, but it does not seem overkill from what I can see right now. If I am sorely mistaken, handle it in game.

Hallifax has had some issues with Gaudiguch citizens (a single citizen, really) doing certain things, like for example porting to mindless or weak Hallifaxians and then attacking them. We brought it up to their politicians and they will be dealing with it. If anything like that is happening in Gaudiguch from Hallifax, I expect the Board to be alerted so we can handle it.

Well, I just want to say if Gaudiguch think they have it bad....

:shrug: Yeah, I really don't think this is that bad yet. Maybe because I used to be in Glomdoring of old and have seen how Celest/Magnagora used to get stomped on by the other.

I doubt Hallifax's raids will ever get out of hand.

That's what they said about Glomdoring, too, once upon a time!

We just need a place to vent. Obviously we need some Elder God in game where all orgs can pray their rants/problems/frustrations to, he then seeks you out in game and comes give you a piece of divine chocolate and a hug.

You obviously have never seen my prayer list. I don't give out chocolate though, if you want chocolate, go find Lyreth.

I somehow can not imagine people ranting to you, you are sort of the symbol of logic. (also I'd fear being told to write a 20 page essay on why I am being irrational )

A Counsellor Divine would be totally awesome. He or she or it will have a thousand ears, all listening to the woes and complains of the shards of Lusternia.

People should do that to Fain. It'd be a lot like that commercial where a drill sergeant plays the role of therapist.

"And that's why yellow makes sad."
"That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!!"

I agree with Sylphas and Aerotan. I disagree with Furien and Rodngar.

While there are youngsters and people of no position that can get away with the "See you later, guys. Good luck." thing, there are just as many of us who will get quite a lot of flak for it. I get flak for not being around eight hours a day. I actually got flak just yesterday for trying to chase Celina and attack her in Faethorn because I was "ordered" to stay in Limbo by a subordinate (which I wasn't).

Your raids to attack plane mobs, especially Ladies and Aspects, are rather pointless, and it's obvious that you only want to draw us out into a fight we cannot win. If it ever does look like we might win, we sure as Hell can't hold you there until you're all dead. We'll kill one, maybe two, and the rest will high-tail it back home faster than we can blink. (Or, in Celina's case, when even just one non-newbie person walks into the room with her, she'll teleport back to her nexus and sulk for an hour.)

I agree with Aerotan that the worse our morale gets, the more likely we are to spend longer and longer periods away from the game. Even if I didn't have a full-time job, do you honestly think I'd want to defend from recurring raids throughout every day? I most certainly will find something better to do, and I'll take flak for it. In fact, I even feel guilty for leaving behind my friends to defend against the hordes because I do enjoy my commune so much and have that emotional attachment to my character and his friends.

I also agree that just one or two jerks can ruin it for everyone else. Peace talks fall apart 99% of the time because someone fancies himself more important than his whole organization and continues to assault the other party. He should be punished, but inevitably there are those who will still stand up for him even if they disagree with his behavior.

The idea behind 'raiding' has been primarily for the cheap laughs one gets off of killing, I've come to learn. It was the same when it was myself, Sojiro, Krellan and Tael in Etherglom against a group lead by Shayle. It's the same when it's Nydekion, Sidd, Celina, Krellan, Talan, Viynain, Shuyin, Vadi... ok, you get the idea, standing by the Etherwilde archway.

You were probably given flak for chasing Celina because you might have been lead into a trap. And she runs by reflex anyways, so it was likely a pointless endeavour. I figure I of all people would be in the worst position for pulling this, but I think there's a difference between 'Gotta go' and 'Let's retreat and nurse our wounds'. I was suggesting both, as necessary, not that everyone suddenly pull the former. I've spoken of the latter several times without receiving flak for it.

And really, if you're getting flak for not being around enough, the people harassing you need to step off. You have a life. Babysitting an organization is not your job. It's no secret I'm playing in Hallifax now to take a break from the Serenwilde beatdown. I don't like Serenwilde any less than I used to in terms of the people, the organization or its RP, but there's just only so I can try before the whole thing simply stops being fun. So, vacation time. Any hatred for it is totally unjustified.