Unknown2011-01-05 12:23:30
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 5 2011, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're forgetting one point, Arcanis. The one that argues against everything you said about Tzaraziko.
That he/she/it used pretty sparkly crystals?
Casilu2011-01-05 17:56:17
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Jan 5 2011, 04:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That he/she/it used pretty sparkly crystals?
No, that Tzazzy was an effective and intelligent leader.
Jack2011-01-05 17:58:45
CASILU WINS
BRUTALITY
BRUTALITY
Arcanis2011-01-05 19:15:29
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 5 2011, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, that Tzazzy was an effective and intelligent leader.
If that's all the proof you're going with. You lose
Llesvelt2011-01-05 19:32:20
Lucidians don't have freaky names?
Have you TRIED the namegen with Lucidians?
Have you TRIED the namegen with Lucidians?
Casilu2011-01-05 19:45:03
QUOTE (Arcanis @ Jan 5 2011, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that's all the proof you're going with. You lose
Can't disprove the argument that Tzazzy was intelligent and effective?
Seraku2011-01-05 19:52:35
She was intelligent and effective, yes. But her methods were very chaotic and unpredictable. That doesn't strike me as lucidian-esque at all.
Razenth2011-01-05 19:54:47
She was clearly a human before there were humans.
Daraius2011-01-05 19:55:42
I love that this issue is actually a point of conflict.
Diamondais2011-01-05 19:55:46
QUOTE (Razenth @ Jan 5 2011, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was clearly a human before there were humans.
I was just about to comment the same!
Casilu2011-01-05 20:00:50
QUOTE (Seraku @ Jan 5 2011, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was intelligent and effective, yes. But her methods were very chaotic and unpredictable. That doesn't strike me as lucidian-esque at all.
Yes, but they usually worked. If the plans were just purely chaotic and weird, they would not have been very effective (unless she had more luck than any other being in the universe). If you consider that she could see or predict the future for some reason, unpredictably weird plans suddenly working makes more sense.
Rika2011-01-05 20:05:34
She was a trill!
Unknown2011-01-05 20:09:53
QUOTE (rika @ Jan 5 2011, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was a trill!
I'm going to start a movement pushing the idea that Tzaraziko was actually a wingless trill.
Casilu2011-01-05 20:10:49
QUOTE (rika @ Jan 5 2011, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was a trill!
That seems more logical.
Edit: You know what I just realized and found hilarious? Three of the Nine Vernals were Merians. In modern times, they would have died in like 30 seconds.
Seraku2011-01-05 20:16:10
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 5 2011, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, but they usually worked. If the plans were just purely chaotic and weird, they would not have been very effective (unless she had more luck than any other being in the universe). If you consider that she could see or predict the future for some reason, unpredictably weird plans suddenly working makes more sense.
Maybe she was the lusternian version of Kamina.
Shamarah2011-01-05 20:16:54
Seriously, you'd think some of the Soulless could afford lightning runes.
Lendren2011-01-05 20:57:10
QUOTE (Shamarah @ Jan 5 2011, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously, you'd think some of the Soulless could afford lightning runes.
At the very least Zenos.
Rika2011-01-05 21:01:03
QUOTE (Lendren @ Jan 6 2011, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At the very least Zenos.
Zenos had nothing to attach them to.
Lendren2011-01-05 21:35:43
Zenos laughs at the idea of needing something to attach them to! (But you can't hear the laughter, either. It just sounds like wind.)
Arcanis2011-01-05 21:43:28
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 6 2011, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, but they usually worked. If the plans were just purely chaotic and weird, they would not have been very effective (unless she had more luck than any other being in the universe). If you consider that she could see or predict the future for some reason, unpredictably weird plans suddenly working makes more sense.
What, do you think plans that are chaotic and wierd mean they must end in failure? If you believe that then paradigmatics should be a worthless skill and Illuminati not able to fight a newbie .
A Lucidian would never make a plan that is seen as "illogical" or a plan that would have a procedure that would lead to the different results that it would. It simply isnt in their nature. Dracnari on the other hand have always been known to be wild and unpredictable, alot of this can be seen in their history.
Also you haven't disproved my main points either on, saying "Her tactics were also intelligent" doesnt disprove her being pretty much of chaos. Not to mention lets not forget she always concealed herself with a cloak from prying eyes (A.k.a Illuminati), and as stated before Illuminati have been around since before the other guilds were even around, thus this could also explain why she was more prone to chaotic energies and actions. If her tactics were more about intelligence in nature then chaotic, then her Seal would be the one of Knowledge, not Chaos