Ileein2011-01-05 22:00:53
Isn't the Big-T-was-Lucidian/Big-T-was-Dracnari feud supposed to be an IC thing?
Diamondais2011-01-05 22:08:43
QUOTE (Ileein @ Jan 5 2011, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't the Big-T-was-Lucidian/Big-T-was-Dracnari feud supposed to be an IC thing?
Yep.
Casilu2011-01-06 01:04:10
QUOTE (Ileein @ Jan 5 2011, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't the Big-T-was-Lucidian/Big-T-was-Dracnari feud supposed to be an IC thing?
I just keep trollin' and they just keep bitin'.
Unknown2011-01-06 09:09:32
I already posted this on the wrong thread, but, Arcanis, go write a book IG.
Elostian2011-01-06 09:16:24
long_desc: The Hand of Tzaraziko lies on the ground here, gleaming with an inner
light.
extended_desc: The Hand of Tzaraziko is comprised of the entire skeletal
forearm and fist of the late Vernal Goddess. The bone itself has crystallized
into jet black stone and the fingers are wrapped around a large orb that is also
jet black. However, the orb has a multicolour patina that swirls and eddies upon
its surface. An aura of great power glows from this object.
Clearly a lucidian forearm.
Llesvelt2011-01-06 09:28:44
Looking at this from an OOC viewpoint, all the many small signs are clearly ment to foster argument rather than give any conclusive answer.
It is all about what you look for, it's the law of fives.
EDIT: Furthermore, planning that seems "chaotic" to the unknowing seems very much a thing that a Lucidian would be capable and even prefer doing. Just because others think it makes no sense does not mean there is no internally consistent planning in the works behind the scene, perhaps even rather daunting calculations towards achieving that end, misdirection and all. IC Llesvelt is all for Tzazariko being Lucidian, for no other reason than that he likes Lucidians more and is prone to believe what the majority of Lucidians believe over what the majority of Dracnari believe, which is horribly nearsighted and stupid, but meh . On a purely OOC note, though, I think it can go both ways, and thats what it is ment to be able to.
It is all about what you look for, it's the law of fives.
EDIT: Furthermore, planning that seems "chaotic" to the unknowing seems very much a thing that a Lucidian would be capable and even prefer doing. Just because others think it makes no sense does not mean there is no internally consistent planning in the works behind the scene, perhaps even rather daunting calculations towards achieving that end, misdirection and all. IC Llesvelt is all for Tzazariko being Lucidian, for no other reason than that he likes Lucidians more and is prone to believe what the majority of Lucidians believe over what the majority of Dracnari believe, which is horribly nearsighted and stupid, but meh . On a purely OOC note, though, I think it can go both ways, and thats what it is ment to be able to.
Unknown2011-01-06 11:08:48
QUOTE (Elostian @ Jan 6 2011, 04:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
long_desc: The Hand of Tzaraziko lies on the ground here, gleaming with an inner
light.
extended_desc: The Hand of Tzaraziko is comprised of the entire skeletal
forearm and fist of the late Vernal Goddess. The bone itself has crystallized
into jet black stone and the fingers are wrapped around a large orb that is also
jet black. However, the orb has a multicolour patina that swirls and eddies upon
its surface. An aura of great power glows from this object.
Clearly a lucidian forearm.
Unknown2011-01-06 11:10:47
I still say she's a trill. The perfect midway point between dracnari and lucidian!
Esano2011-01-06 11:23:31
QUOTE (Elostian @ Jan 6 2011, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
long_desc: The Hand of Tzaraziko lies on the ground here, gleaming with an inner
light.
extended_desc: The Hand of Tzaraziko is comprised of the entire skeletal
forearm and fist of the late Vernal Goddess. The bone itself has crystallized
into jet black stone and the fingers are wrapped around a large orb that is also
jet black. However, the orb has a multicolour patina that swirls and eddies upon
its surface. An aura of great power glows from this object.
Clearly a lucidian forearm.
It's clearly a reference to obsidian, made from the cooling of lava, referencing the Dracnari proclivity for volcanic environments.
Even if obsidian isn't crystallized....
Llesvelt2011-01-06 13:18:43
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Jan 6 2011, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still say she's a trill. The perfect midway point between dracnari and lucidian!
Except they are still very much on the Lucidian side of the fence and would as a whole specie probably side with Lucidians over Dracnari any day
Unknown2011-01-06 15:06:10
Clearly, Tzaraziko is the original changeling, and cameos are pieces of his/her/its essence which cannot be contained by the Seal of Chaos, and hence manifest themselves as a brooch that confers powers of race-changing.
Lendren2011-01-06 17:57:23
But Vernals don't shard. Mysrai's probably the first changeling, and Tzaraziko's probably the first one to figure out how to artificially induce that in races other than Mysrai's shards, and thus inventor of the cameo.
Jack2011-01-06 19:34:29
QUOTE (Arcanis @ Jan 5 2011, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If she was truly a deity dedicated to chaos, surely she would be a lucidian if only to defy conventions? As you've stated, there's multitudinous clues that she's a dracnari, so wouldn't it make more sense for a self-proclaimed Goddess of chaos to arise from the less likely source?
(yes i know it's deliberately ambiguous i just like to feel included)
EDIT: Also, it's not necessarily true that Tzaraziko was a changeling. She might just've been good with illusions. If Vestera could hide his/her gender, Tzaraziko could surely hide her race.
Unknown2011-01-06 20:23:34
She was obviously an orclach. When I prove this, I will be able to reveal the hidden org of New Orclachdonia.
HOOO!
HOOO!
Unknown2011-01-06 21:55:37
@Lendren and Jack: I was't entirely serious when I said that.
Arcanis2011-01-07 00:59:35
These 3 are from the vernal wars
Give me 1 example of a lucidian in history EVER being brash . In almost every definition of lucidians from back to Xyl to the celestine empire, it is showed they are every but brash. It also goes against their nature which I was speaking of before.
What lucidian have you ever heard of that had flesh? Also the black skeleton part explains her current arm.
What was the name of that guild again that was about changing their physical bodies....darnit name escapes me
Edit Edit: Also I think this conversation is definetly going against this thread. Will be stopping now.
P.S: Check and mate
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Though little understood by the other Vernal Gods, her seemingly convoluted and brash plans were almost always followed because of this.
Give me 1 example of a lucidian in history EVER being brash . In almost every definition of lucidians from back to Xyl to the celestine empire, it is showed they are every but brash. It also goes against their nature which I was speaking of before.
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When Tzaraziko began to reach into this clear pool, the flesh on her fingertips immediately dissolved. Rather than pulling her hand back, she quickly plunged her arm into the pool up to her elbow and grasped the eye. From that day forward, that section of her arm was a black skeleton with the fingers fused around a gleaming orb that was once Illith's eye.
What lucidian have you ever heard of that had flesh? Also the black skeleton part explains her current arm.
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Tzaraziko was a mistress of illusion and shape changing.
What was the name of that guild again that was about changing their physical bodies....darnit name escapes me
Edit Edit: Also I think this conversation is definetly going against this thread. Will be stopping now.
P.S: Check and mate
Unknown2011-01-07 01:05:13
QUOTE (Arcanis @ Jan 6 2011, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These 3 are from the vernal wars
Give me 1 example of a lucidian in history EVER being brash . In almost every definition of lucidians from back to Xyl to the celestine empire, it is showed they are every but brash. It also goes against their nature which I was speaking of before.
What lucidian have you ever heard of that had flesh? Also the black skeleton part explains her current arm.
What was the name of that guild again that was about changing their physical bodies....darnit name escapes me
Edit Edit: Also I think this conversation is definetly going against this thread. Will be stopping now.
P.S: Check and mate
Give me 1 example of a lucidian in history EVER being brash . In almost every definition of lucidians from back to Xyl to the celestine empire, it is showed they are every but brash. It also goes against their nature which I was speaking of before.
What lucidian have you ever heard of that had flesh? Also the black skeleton part explains her current arm.
What was the name of that guild again that was about changing their physical bodies....darnit name escapes me
Edit Edit: Also I think this conversation is definetly going against this thread. Will be stopping now.
P.S: Check and mate
I counter with *longwinded lecture about intentional ambiguity*
Unknown2011-01-07 02:01:21
Your point about 'shape-changing' counters any other point you can make.
For obvious reasons.
For obvious reasons.
Lendren2011-01-07 03:15:30
QUOTE (Kialkarkea @ Jan 6 2011, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I counter with *longwinded lecture about intentional ambiguity*
Xenthos2011-01-16 07:46:33
QUOTE (Arcanis @ Jan 6 2011, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though little understood by the other Vernal Gods, her seemingly convoluted and brash plans were almost always followed because of this.
My, what a difference is made when you place the emphasis on a different part of the sentence...