Sixties Music Mafia

by Jack

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Casilu2011-01-22 20:34:57
QUOTE (Othero @ Jan 22 2011, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm, that puts me at 2 votes away from a kill. Ok. I'm the Doors. My ability is the unknown soldier. Once a game I can day kill someone. If I don't use it today I pretty much can't use it unless a mafia member is lynched today. It won't end the day if I use it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oW9GLgsa8s

But yeah. This game also seems to be slowing down so I'm very very close to using it as I'm very confident in who I think the rest of the mafia are.


Are sure you're not Arix and the chainsaws? ninja.gif
Unknown2011-01-22 20:39:12
I'm thinking that Othero and Caerulo are either scum or are in some other way in cahoots. I'm leaning towards the former. It may be the later as Romertien and I were able to communicate with each other. Still my vote stays the same. I'd rather lynch Caerulo but the votes obviously are not there.
Unknown2011-01-22 20:53:51
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 22 2011, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are sure you're not Arix and the chainsaws? ninja.gif


Oh god no. That'd be awful. I just don't want things to go slow. And mafia should be bombastic.
Jack2011-01-23 05:48:01
Votecount:
Anumi - 2 (Othero, Casilu)
Othero - 3 (Gleip, Anumi, BroadwayBlueShirt)

With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch. Looks like today's goin' slow, so there'll be a deadline in 24 hours time (give or take an hour or two). Get voting, plebs!
Unknown2011-01-23 13:11:45
Erm, I'm not sure how some of you interpreted my post as saying I have stuff to talk about when I was away for four days. My post merely indicated that I was back and no longer absent. After all, if I've not read the posts, how would I know if I had anything to post?

Anyway, while I didn't have anything much to talk about the last Day, here are some of my thoughts on this Day's posts:

Anumi's arguments basically revolve around the fact that she (correct gender?) assumed my post meant I was going to say more.

As for Othero, his roleclaim seems sound to me, and easily verified. He can use his daykill on his suspect. If it turns out scum, he's town. If it turns out townie, while not as conclusive as a scum kill, it would at least give us more information as to whether Othero is scum or not. We can then decide whether we want to lynch him or not.


Some other posts which appear suspicious to me:
QUOTE (Gleip @ Jan 22 2011, 02:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aw. We lost Jimi Hendrix? sad.gif

Anyway, if we've a watcher who watched Vendetta it'd be nice for you to share what you know. Until then

Vote: Othero Yes, Anumi acted odd, odd enough that I probably would have vigged if I could, but such quick days are not good either. I personally wanted to hear what Caerulo had to say, and even though he was quiet, there hadn't even been 24 hours passed yet.

Bolded for emphasis. I find it odd that you would mention about vigging someone. If I was suspicious of someone, my reaction would be to vote for that person, instead of considering the person as a vig target.

The first line of your post reminded me that our town vigilante was killed. Seeing as we still have two nightkills on the Night our vigilante died, and it is highly unlikely that we would get two vigilantes, it raises the possibility that you're a serial killer.

On a separate note:
QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 23 2011, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm thinking that Othero and Caerulo are either scum or are in some other way in cahoots. I'm leaning towards the former. It may be the later as Romertien and I were able to communicate with each other. Still my vote stays the same. I'd rather lynch Caerulo but the votes obviously are not there.

I'm curious as to why you would so casually reveal that you're Romertien's mason partner without any pressure or questioning.

Also, on second reading when Vendetta revealed that she followed Furien last Day, he posted
QUOTE (Broadway,BlueShirt @ Jan 20 2011, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My question being what made you decide to follow Furien?

Which, is a very strange question to ask considering it was Night 1 and that the reason she chose Furien really had no impact on what she had revealed.

Also, he has a tendency to simply say he agrees with someone else, and adds nothing to the discussion.
QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 20 2011, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not ready to vote yet but Anumi articulated my own thoughts pretty well.

QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 22 2011, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was waiting to see what/if Caerulo had to say. He and Othero seem suspicious to me for the reasons previously posted by Anumi. Going to give this a little more time to see if anything else interesting is posted and then I'll be back to vote.


Lastly
QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 23 2011, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vote: Othero

I know you've posted that you were going to wait and see if there was more information before coming back to post, but a post consisting of just a vote is suspicious, especially when there has been information given in the form of Othero's roleclaim. If you're not convinced by his roleclaim, explain why instead of just a plain vote post.
Diamondais2011-01-23 13:21:46
You do bring up some good points Caerulo, still waiting on Othero, seems strange to claim and say he thinks he knows who the scum are but wont take the chance. You have a good chance of making us believe you're part of the town if you back up your claim.
Unknown2011-01-23 15:38:39
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Jan 23 2011, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, he has a tendency to simply say he agrees with someone else, and adds nothing to the discussion.


More particular than that, he appears to be in consistent agreement with Anumi. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think their opinions have diverged in any instance yet.

Unknown2011-01-23 17:47:28
My posts have been short and not very forth coming mostly because this is my first game of mafia ever. To say no pressure has been placed upon me to reveal my role is also untrue. Othero's claim of an ability to day kill after votes were made against him is a definite threat. The fact that he has not carried through on the threat makes him even more suspicious. Vandetta's revelation that they attempted to follow me at night may not be direct questioning but it does direct pressure against me. Especially because it failed.

Because I forgot that we can't edit posts a 2nd one will be coming shortly.

Unknown2011-01-23 18:01:06
QUOTE (Othero @ Jan 16 2011, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually hate playing aggressively but if you don't people just walk away and the game stops. It has become a necessity. Go back and look at my earlier games and you'll see I used to play a lot more quietly.



QUOTE (Caerulo @ Jan 16 2011, 06:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Romertien, you seem to be contradicting yourself. In your first line, you seem to be clarifying Othero's tone as being normal, and then right after that, you say it is not normal. Why the need to justify yourself before voting for Othero?

And then, you say that you are voting for Other 'for now'. What does that mean?

Lastly, while Othero's vote may be a quick, I don't read any aggressiveness to his post, and it sounds fairly reasonable to me.



Add this in with Caerulo's most recent post and it seems the two are very chummy. Not a very big sample size but that is the nature of the game. To level suspicion against me for agreeing with Anumi when Caerulo is in turn quick to defend Othero also seems scummy to me. Really as I said my suspicion is greater against Caerulo but the votes aren't there.
Casilu2011-01-23 18:01:41
QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 23 2011, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To say no pressure has been placed upon me to reveal my role is also untrue. Othero's claim of an ability to day kill after votes were made against him is a definite threat. The fact that he has not carried through on the threat makes him even more suspicious. Vandetta's revelation that they attempted to follow me at night may not be direct questioning but it does direct pressure against me. Especially because it failed.


No, it is very true. It would be stupid to be daykill someone like that unless you were REALLY sure they were not town (that is what the Arix thing was referencing by the way, he had a power to daykill someone with a chainsaw, was going to get lynched Day 1, and ended up day-killing scum.) If he WAS to daykill someone town for no reason, everyone would want to lynch him (since mafia can still have powersin games like this.)

When it comes to Vendetta, that was likely another random choice, and the failure was likely just a roleblock. There really isn't pressure from that either.

So, really, not too much to worry about.
Unknown2011-01-23 18:16:05
Caerulo has pretty much backed up my suspicions. I've got Anumi and Broadwayblueshirts pegged as the scum. I'll also gladly Execute BBS and see if it screws me over or not.
Unknown2011-01-23 18:16:41
QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 24 2011, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Add this in with Caerulo's most recent post and it seems the two are very chummy. Not a very big sample size but that is the nature of the game. To level suspicion against me for agreeing with Anumi when Caerulo is in turn quick to defend Othero also seems scummy to me. Really as I said my suspicion is greater against Caerulo but the votes aren't there.

Note that in no way did I say that you were suspicious because you agree with Anumi. Rather, my point was that you are suspicious because all you do is agree with other people, without even attempting to add to the discussion by raising points, or even simply from your point of view.

Also, in the quote that you've quoted out of context, I was not so much defending Othero rather than pointing out that Romertien's statement made no sense to me.

After reading my previous post, perhaps it wasn't clearly stated, but my stance about Anumi and Othero is that I feel neither of them are suspicious to me. Why? As I've mentioned and you've ignored, I do not feel that Anumi is suspicious either because her arguments sound but flawed due to assuming that I had promised to post the previous Day. By extension, since Othero was opposing Anumi based on that, and the fact that his roleclaim can easily be checked, he does not exude any scumminess to me.

Lastly, you'll note that Othero still has the majority of the votes, so the pressure is on him. Whether he chooses to use the daykill, or whether he's lying about it, the clock is ticking against him.
Casilu2011-01-23 19:21:23
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Jan 23 2011, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lastly, you'll note that Othero still has the majority of the votes, so the pressure is on him. Whether he chooses to use the daykill, or whether he's lying about it, the clock is ticking against him.


ninja.gif'd
Unknown2011-01-23 19:24:13
QUOTE (Othero @ Jan 23 2011, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Caerulo has pretty much backed up my suspicions. I've got Anumi and Broadwayblueshirts pegged as the scum. I'll also gladly Execute BBS and see if it screws me over or not.


... wait, why did you do that?

BBS claimed to be able to communicate with Romertien. Romertien was the Rolling Stones, and the other side of the mason pair was described as being a "fellow british invasion group", which likely leaves The Beatles. I'm having difficulty imagining Jack would set this game up without The Beatles being in somewhere. We could have used this against him later if someone ended up saying they were The Beatles instead, otherwise it's too obvious a possible role to fake-claim, and very dangerous for someone else to claim if he is The Beatles.
Unknown2011-01-23 19:36:48
Also, I'll be gone for a good while since I need to go to work again. I should be back several hours before the deadline, though, in case a few others plan to be around then to discuss things before making a decision.
Unknown2011-01-23 19:37:10
Like I said I'm new to this so I'm muddling my way thru. I am wondering if Othero's execution counts as an insta-lynch and prevents me from taking any other action?
Unknown2011-01-23 19:38:41
QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 23 2011, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said I'm new to this so I'm muddling my way thru. I am wondering if Othero's execution counts as an insta-lynch and prevents me from taking any other action?


This sort of thing is generally at the mod's discretion.

Be back later.
Unknown2011-01-23 20:11:24
Well in that case I'm GONNA TRY WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS! on Othero. Thus making vote count twice. By my count it only takes one more vote to lynch him. Jack can sort it all out.
Diamondais2011-01-23 20:44:52
Well then, I can take a gander at who BBS is.
Gleip2011-01-24 02:37:51
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Jan 23 2011, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Erm, I'm not sure how some of you interpreted my post as saying I have stuff to talk about when I was away for four days. My post merely indicated that I was back and no longer absent. After all, if I've not read the posts, how would I know if I had anything to post?

Anyway, while I didn't have anything much to talk about the last Day, here are some of my thoughts on this Day's posts:

Anumi's arguments basically revolve around the fact that she (correct gender?) assumed my post meant I was going to say more.

As for Othero, his roleclaim seems sound to me, and easily verified. He can use his daykill on his suspect. If it turns out scum, he's town. If it turns out townie, while not as conclusive as a scum kill, it would at least give us more information as to whether Othero is scum or not. We can then decide whether we want to lynch him or not.


Some other posts which appear suspicious to me:

Bolded for emphasis. I find it odd that you would mention about vigging someone. If I was suspicious of someone, my reaction would be to vote for that person, instead of considering the person as a vig target.

The first line of your post reminded me that our town vigilante was killed. Seeing as we still have two nightkills on the Night our vigilante died, and it is highly unlikely that we would get two vigilantes, it raises the possibility that you're a serial killer.

Gee. I'm sorry for assuming that you were planning on playing the game. If you aren't gonna say or share anything after four days, why bother signing up? Thinking that you were gonna say something is a completely justified assumption.

As for the second part. That's just gross misinterpretation that isn't even a very good interpretation. The statement is basically "If I could vig, I would've killed Anumi". In other words, I am saying that I don't have a kill power. Yet you're twisting that into making it sound like I can kill and that I am therefore a SK. That, and you are way too willing to brush Othero aside. I mean, the guy up and apparently DKed someone who had just admitted to a role that can be instantly disproven and which wouldn't harm town all that much should the real mason speak up.

QUOTE (BroadwayBlueShirt @ Jan 22 2011, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm thinking that Othero and Caerulo are either scum or are in some other way in cahoots. I'm leaning towards the former. It may be the later as Romertien and I were able to communicate with each other. Still my vote stays the same. I'd rather lynch Caerulo but the votes obviously are not there.



QUOTE (Othero @ Jan 23 2011, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Caerulo has pretty much backed up my suspicions. I've got Anumi and Broadwayblueshirts pegged as the scum. I'll also gladly Execute BBS and see if it screws me over or not.

Yeah. Just what?