Umineko Mafia - Night 4

by Furien

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Unknown2011-01-30 00:41:37
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 29 2011, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shou, why are you suddenly voting for Ileein and telling town to hurry?


Well clearly I'm not doing it just for fun and without a basis to go on, and I'm asking people to hurry in case one of the scum have a day kill they can still use.
Casilu2011-01-30 00:42:43
QUOTE (Shou @ Jan 29 2011, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well clearly I'm not doing it just for fun and without a basis to go on, and I'm asking people to hurry in case one of the scum have a day kill they can still use.


Before I rush into a lynch, I would like to know why I should trust you.
Unknown2011-01-30 00:44:50
QUOTE (Shou @ Jan 30 2011, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well clearly I'm not doing it just for fun and without a basis to go on, and I'm asking people to hurry in case one of the scum have a day kill they can still use.

Wow. You either received some holy-friggin-hell-this-guy-is-guilty info, or you're the most transparent scum in the history of mafia. biggrin.gif
Casilu2011-01-30 00:46:50
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Jan 29 2011, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow. You either received some holy-friggin-hell-this-guy-is-guilty info, or you're the most transparent scum in the history of mafia. biggrin.gif


My thought exactly. And I don't remember seeing him play as Scum before...
Unknown2011-01-30 00:47:16
Because of what happened during the night.

I'm not familiar with mafia strategies, but I'd rather be blunt and lay the voting right away instead of being subtle and playing cool at the risk of it backfiring on me.

Going through the first 5 pages you can see Ileein playing very well, so I'm not going to try and make something up to draw suspicion to him that way.
Ssaliss2011-01-30 00:48:25
So... for the blind among us, what did happen during the night that points to Ileein?
Unknown2011-01-30 00:50:34
*facepalm* How much more obvious can I get?

I found out Ileein's alignment, but not identity.
Furien2011-01-30 00:50:38
Deep in the boundaries of the Meta-World, the circumstances of Shiri's death are argued over heatedly. Red and Blue Truths fly left and right as the Anti-Mystery and Anti-Fantasy teams wage a war of logic against illusion, deduction against mystification. In the course of the battle, the Anti-Fantasy team falls victim to a flurry of blue truth that forces them to reveal one thing about Shiri's identity:

Shiri (Jessica Ushiromiya) possessed the power to investigate one person at night, determining their alignment in the process.
Ssaliss2011-01-30 00:54:32
Well, not having to drag everything out of you does help, you know. You said you found out his alignment, great! I'm on board that.

Before voting though, I'd rather give him a chance to defend himself and see what he has to say.
Unknown2011-01-30 00:55:49
I was trying to keep my own identity safe. I'm probably the next target now sad.gif
Casilu2011-01-30 00:56:18
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Jan 29 2011, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, not having to drag everything out of you does help, you know. You said you found out his alignment, great! I'm on board that.

Before voting though, I'd rather give him a chance to defend himself and see what he has to say.


I don't think I can trust Shou now. Look above your post, dood.
Ssaliss2011-01-30 00:58:34
Yeah, that was written while I formulated my post (or rather, I pressed "reply" and had to run off). Two people with the same powers? Hrm. Odd, to say the least. Now I'm even more eager to hear from Ileein.
Unknown2011-01-30 00:59:27
QUOTE (casilu @ Jan 29 2011, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think I can trust Shou now. Look above your post, dood.


sleep.gif You can take it both ways - at least you know this specific type of power exists in the game now. And what are the chances I'd use the same wording as Furien who posted -after- me?
Diamondais2011-01-30 00:59:33
Two allignment checkers does seem to be quite a stretch.
Sylandra2011-01-30 01:02:04
Shou, I think the problem is anyone could shout out a name and then give no back-up as to why that person should be lynched. People were getting onto Kira for that earlier too, just for saying Casilu was likely Town. When you go around calling Scum, you need to give hard evidence as to why. You say you have an alignment-determining skill, but that's just as easy to make up on the spot, and kind of suspicious given Jessica's powers.

At the same time, we've had a handful of town deaths and no definite scum deaths. And frankly, I'm kind of curious about what would happen if we all -did- lynch Ileein.

What the hell.

##VOTE: ILEEIN.


If we kill Ileein and Ileein is town, then it makes Shou look suspicious and we can lynch Shou. If we kill Ileein and Ileein is scum, then Shou looks a-okay. If we kill Shou, though, and Shou is an investigative townie (like he's implying) we then have two less investigators. And I highly doubt there's anymore total. Ergo, I'd rather take my chances on Ileein than Shou.

Wouldn't hurt to prod Ileein into explaining himself, either.
Ssaliss2011-01-30 01:03:40
Well, if it comes down to it, I'd rather lynch Ileein than Shou today, based on a very simple fact: If Shou really has the same power as Shiri, then he discovered someone with a bad alignment, and the sooner we lynch those, the better. If Ileein turns out to be town, Shou's next on the list.

Granted, Shou could be a Jester trying to get himself lynched, and this is just part one of his plan. If we have another day (or night) killer out there, and Ileein turns out town, then I'd suggest they target Shou (as far as I understood it, Jesters only win if they're lynched?).
Unknown2011-01-30 01:05:18
Hurrah my avatar sister! I guess I could've given more hard evidence, in the form of revealing my own powers. I forget how paranoid everyone in mafia is.

In the interests of fairness let's hear what Ileein has to say then/how good he is at making up stories.
Rika2011-01-30 01:10:37
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Jan 30 2011, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to hear more about this, personally.


This is my flip the chessboard day power. I used it earlier and found out there were four scum left. For a game this size, 5 scum is unlikely, so I'm going to go with Tekora being town. Speaking of which,

##Vote: Kiradawea

FoS on Gleip and Ileein.

Gleip was defending Kiradawea aggressively. Ileein jumped on the bandwagon on me that they started but otherwise didn't really contribute much himself.
Unknown2011-01-30 01:11:56
Are scum able to communicate with each other, or do they know who the other scum are?
Rika2011-01-30 01:12:24
Oops. That's what you get for starting a post and going away to do other things.

##Unvote
##Vote: Ileein