Umineko Mafia - Night 4

by Furien

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Unknown2011-01-30 17:25:49
Well since I revealed my power I don't think there's any harm in revealing that I am Erika Furudo. I don't know why there was another investigator in the game but my role's sole purpose on this island is to investigate.
Rika2011-01-30 19:30:06
Woah. Is my character the only one who isn't a witch?
Casilu2011-01-30 19:34:37
QUOTE (rika @ Jan 30 2011, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woah. Is my character the only one who isn't a witch?


I'm not. Especially since magic isn't real.
Diamondais2011-01-30 19:41:57
Not a witch either.

Not particularly convinced with Shou at the moment, but I don't see where else I could go with it at the moment.

The only other thing right now would be to look at inactives, unless I've missed some other train of thought.
Ileein2011-01-30 19:42:51
It's interesting to note that Erika is from an alternative timeline just as I am, one in which she died. At least, in one of the stories. Probably just flavor, but who knows?
Rika2011-01-30 19:45:19
I'm just going to keep my vote on Kiradawea until someone else finds enough evidence of someone acting scummy. To me, she and Gleip were by far the scummiest on day one. I believe both Shou and Ileein, but Shou needs to back off a bit with the whole investigator thing. My guess is that if I was investigated, I'd be shown as a "culprit", too.
Ssaliss2011-01-30 20:02:58
Am I really the only one (aside from Shou) that finds the Mariage Sorciere suspicious? Granted, I haven't really watched the series or played the game, but from what I read, it didn't seem to be a pleasant group... If everyone else is fine with it, I suppose I am as well, but... yeah.
Unknown2011-01-30 21:47:54
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Jan 30 2011, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am I really the only one (aside from Shou) that finds the Mariage Sorciere suspicious? Granted, I haven't really watched the series or played the game, but from what I read, it didn't seem to be a pleasant group... If everyone else is fine with it, I suppose I am as well, but... yeah.

I am suspicious about the whole thing too, but for now since my other course of action was disrupted, I'm going to go with the person I've gotten the most scum vibes from to this point, regardless of if they're here to defend themself about it or not. I'm not feeling particularly merciful.

##Vote: Kiradawea

I'm also wary of Shou's investigator power. I'd be curious to see what shows up for other people (particularly ones who haven't claimed to be in the Mariage) as well. It might be something that turns up with a false positive, which would be good to know for sure one way or another.
Ileein2011-01-30 23:12:08
Yeah, if we've got an insane (or questionably sane) investigator, that's somewhat worrisome.
Unknown2011-01-31 01:26:56
QUOTE (Ileein @ Jan 31 2011, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, if we've got an insane (or questionably sane) investigator, that's somewhat worrisome.

This could be true as well.
Unknown2011-01-31 01:31:44
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Jan 30 2011, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This could be true as well.

That's why I want to hear Wuylinfe's investigation tomorrow- of a non-Mariage player. If it shows up innocent, we know not everyone shows up as a culprit, and it puts suspicion back on the Mariage. If it shows up as a culprit, they might also be scum (no real way to know), but it would also make me more unsure about the power's trustworthiness. Especially since we already know one dead person was an investigator, I feel like there's something up with this one that would make it...different, somehow.
Unknown2011-01-31 01:32:27
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Jan 30 2011, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's why I want to hear Wuylinfe's investigation tomorrow- of a non-Mariage player. If it shows up innocent, we know not everyone shows up as a culprit, and it puts suspicion back on the Mariage. If it shows up as a culprit, they might also be scum (no real way to know), but it would also make me more unsure about the power's trustworthiness. Especially since we already know one dead person was an investigator, I feel like there's something up with this one that would make it...different, somehow.

I of course mean Shou. SAME PERSON.
Casilu2011-01-31 01:33:51
Shou, investigate me tonight, if we do this plan. I will have a way of proving myself to be town tomorrow.
Ssaliss2011-01-31 01:52:45
QUOTE (Ileein @ Jan 30 2011, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, it's unfortunate, but we can't really tell you what our "mystery group" does because it hasn't been activated yet. If you kill one of us, it'll take the other a while to even find the third one. And I do know that you probably want the group activated.

Just thought of this line... Why would we probably want the group activated? Given that you are investigated as possible scum, at least I am very curious.
Casilu2011-01-31 01:55:21
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Jan 30 2011, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just thought of this line... Why would we probably want the group activated? Given that you are investigated as possible scum, at least I am very curious.


He said they were a Mason-esque group who gets a useful town power when activated together.
Unknown2011-01-31 02:09:32
That's the impression I get from my conditions as well. It's also made very clear (Ileein can probably back me up on this) that even though we're latent witches, we're not the same Witches as on the scum team. I'm not sure if we need to contact all three members in order for all of us to get our powers, or if the both of us will do, hmm.
Unknown2011-01-31 02:14:56
QUOTE (Silferras @ Jan 31 2011, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the impression I get from my conditions as well. It's also made very clear (Ileein can probably back me up on this) that even though we're latent witches, we're not the same Witches as on the scum team. I'm not sure if we need to contact all three members in order for all of us to get our powers, or if the both of us will do, hmm.


Does only person have to find the other? Do both of you have a night action to look for each other?
Ssaliss2011-01-31 02:22:35
QUOTE (Silferras @ Jan 31 2011, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the impression I get from my conditions as well. It's also made very clear (Ileein can probably back me up on this) that even though we're latent witches, we're not the same Witches as on the scum team. I'm not sure if we need to contact all three members in order for all of us to get our powers, or if the both of us will do, hmm.

Yeah; I don't think you're the scum team (I mean, which scum team would be dumb enough to out themselves?), but I am currently extremely suspicious. Right now, we only have your words that you are a) town-friendly despite an alignment-check that suggests otherwise, and b) something good will happen for town if you're allowed to all get together, despite the fact that all I've read about this group seems to indicate otherwise.

Of course, proving it is hard, and currently the only (and admittedly substantial) thing in your favor (at least in my eyes) is that you have outed yourselves. That doesn't mean I trust you though.
Unknown2011-01-31 02:39:01
I have a night action that lets me check if my target is a member, yes.

As for alignment checks suggesting otherwise - I'm actually very curious to see if non-witch Eva would turn up as a culprit. In one of the universes, Eva is the only survivor of the Rokkenjima massacre, and it was suggested (maybe outright told to the reader, I forget the details) that she shot everyone else in order to secure the Ushiromiya fortune for herself. Buuut, that's not conclusive, since this might be set in another timeline.

I'd also like to hear more from Shou about the wording of the result he received. Is it just 'culprit', or does it explicitly suggest/say that Ileein's scum?

Other thoughts - while Beatrice is indubitably a witch, Mariage Sorciere as an alliance is benign as things go. The only clause is for member witches to accept each other and respect each other's magic (taken from here), and it's also mentioned that Beatrice gained "True" Endless Magic as a member - her Endless Magic before that being the type she used to trap everyone on the island and kill them over and over in her game with Battler.
Unknown2011-01-31 02:57:56
So there's no ambiguity I'll just paste what I got.

By this logic, Furudo Erika determines that Ileein is indeed a culprit of the Rokkenjima Massacre! What do you think, everyone?~