Umineko Mafia - Night 4

by Furien

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Unknown2011-02-04 22:17:01
Well, this is unfortunate. Here are the people I am suspicious of right now.

SSALISS:
Tried to push hard for getting rid of the Mariage Sorciere. Frequently saying things like "isn't anyone else suspicious of this?" despite everyone pretty much saying they were, but us wanting more information before going ahead with a lynch. Makes me feel like he's scum and knew the group would be bad business for his guys if they made it to each other.

ATS:
Stuck a vote right onto Silferras fairly close to the deadline, making the votes a tie. I never like when people do this- I feel like it's a pretty scummy move.

DIAMONDAIS:
Ok, I don't really have anything to back this one up. It's just a hunch!! But I know myself and Sylandra (since she just claimed Mariage) aren't scum, so that leaves Diamondais, Ssaliss, AtS, Solanis, and Gleip from the list of people Rika just said. And I'm already suspicious of Ssaliss and AtS...Of course, there's the possibility that Rika herself is scum, but I'm willing to believe her for the time being.
Unknown2011-02-04 22:18:19
Aaand Solanis posted while I was. Narrows things down even more!
Unknown2011-02-04 22:21:11
Oh, if it wasn't clear, I support Rika's suggestion of mass-claim.
Ssaliss2011-02-04 22:26:21
Fine. I'm Rosa Ushiromiya.

And really, Solanis, who are you? Considering that the Mariage Sorciere was made up by Ange, Maria and Beatrice... Beatrice is the only one left in that list. Are you Beatrice?
Unknown2011-02-04 22:27:19
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Feb 4 2011, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fine. I'm Rosa Ushiromiya.

And really, Solanis, who are you? Considering that the Mariage Sorciere was made up by Ange, Maria and Beatrice... Beatrice is the only one left in that list. Are you Beatrice?

We already just had someone claim as the last Mariage member.
Ssaliss2011-02-04 22:28:21
D'oh. Sylandra, not Solanis. My bad!

The question is then... Sylandra, who are you?
Unknown2011-02-04 22:29:00
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Feb 5 2011, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fine. I'm Rosa Ushiromiya.

And really, Solanis, who are you? Considering that the Mariage Sorciere was made up by Ange, Maria and Beatrice... Beatrice is the only one left in that list. Are you Beatrice?


Well, she chose not to state who. I mean, given that the whole premise is that Beatrice is B A D ...
Unknown2011-02-04 22:29:31
Okay hi *confusion*
Unknown2011-02-04 22:31:41
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Feb 4 2011, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
D'oh. Sylandra, not Solanis. My bad!

The question is then... Sylandra, who are you?

What I want to know is, why does it matter to you who she is? We know there are three Mariage members total, and one died and showed up as town. The last two are presumably town as well. It wouldn't make much sense, to me, to have a town-aligned group with scum members. That's all I personally need to know. Three total, two left. I'm already suspicious of you, so your trying to get what seems like innocuous information out of someone (which you should already be able to figure out considering the other two Mariage members' names are in the open) makes me a little nervous about what might happen if they say so. suspicious.gif
Unknown2011-02-04 22:33:21
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Feb 5 2011, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I want to know is, why does it matter to you who she is? We know there are three Mariage members total, and one died and showed up as town. The last two are presumably town as well. It wouldn't make much sense, to me, to have a town-aligned group with scum members. That's all I personally need to know. Three total, two left. I'm already suspicious of you, so your trying to get what seems like innocuous information out of someone (which you should already be able to figure out considering the other two Mariage members' names are in the open) makes me a little nervous about what might happen if they say so. suspicious.gif


There's definitely precedent for that, with a supposedly townie mason group having one scum as its members.


Roleclaims, people. (Unless you disagree with the idea, in which case, say so!)
Unknown2011-02-04 22:35:47
QUOTE (Solanis @ Feb 4 2011, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's definitely precedent for that, with a supposedly townie mason group having one scum as its members.


Roleclaims, people. (Unless you disagree with the idea, in which case, say so!)

Fine, I'll roleclaim. It always makes me nervous. sad.gif

I'm Natsuhi Ushiromiya.
Sylandra2011-02-04 22:37:12
1+1=2, guys.

I'm Beato (original Beatrice). Eva-Beatrice has become the new Beatrice, and I have lost much of my power as I have passed on my title to her. My game has spiraled out of my original control and now I just seek to see it end. Unbelievable? Sure. But I'm sure you all knew this whole time that the Mariage Sorciere included Beatrice.

So. Having fun, all? waggle.gif
Unknown2011-02-04 22:37:25
QUOTE (Solanis @ Feb 4 2011, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's definitely precedent for that, with a supposedly townie mason group having one scum as its members.

Still, I'd rather assume innocence for now. Last thing we need to do is start putting votes on someone and having all the scum jump onto it to knock them out.
Ssaliss2011-02-04 22:39:05
Technically, all we know is that Maria was town, which could very well be the case before she's turned into a witch. Either way though, I very much doubt Beatrice is a friendly, which is why I'm extremely suspicious of Sylandra at the moment, despite Maria being aligned with town. I wouldn't back a lynch of Ileein right now though just because he might become a member of the Mariage Sorciere.
Sylandra2011-02-04 22:44:30
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Feb 4 2011, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Technically, all we know is that Maria was town, which could very well be the case before she's turned into a witch. Either way though, I very much doubt Beatrice is a friendly, which is why I'm extremely suspicious of Sylandra at the moment, despite Maria being aligned with town. I wouldn't back a lynch of Ileein right now though just because he might become a member of the Mariage Sorciere.

But think about it, Ssaliss. It takes two members to do that. If you lynch me, the Sorciere won't activate.

Be suspicious all you want - it's the most ridiculous roleclaim so far - but take that into account.
Ssaliss2011-02-04 22:46:09
Yes, I'm aware of that. Which is the very reason I wouldn't back a lynching of Ileein. By lynching you, Ileein would never become part of the group, and would remain aligned to town. I thought that much was obvious.
Unknown2011-02-04 22:48:57
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Feb 4 2011, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I'm aware of that. Which is the very reason I wouldn't back a lynching of Ileein. By lynching you, Ileein would never become part of the group, and would remain aligned to town. I thought that much was obvious.

I swear I get more and more suspicious of you every time you post.
Ssaliss2011-02-04 22:49:30
Why? Because I firmly believe that Beatrice is someone we don't want around?
Unknown2011-02-04 22:53:30
QUOTE (Sylandra @ Feb 5 2011, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1+1=2, guys.

I'm Beato (original Beatrice). Eva-Beatrice has become the new Beatrice, and I have lost much of my power as I have passed on my title to her. My game has spiraled out of my original control and now I just seek to see it end. Unbelievable? Sure. But I'm sure you all knew this whole time that the Mariage Sorciere included Beatrice.

So. Having fun, all? waggle.gif


Okay, so I may be reading the flavour wrong, but The Seven Stakes of Purgatory (which are what killed Shiri and Casilu) were weapons used by only (?) Beatrice and later Ange-Beatrice. Eva-Beatrice didn't use these.

If my Umineko information gathering is correct, that would cast suspicion on Sylandra and Ileein.
Unknown2011-02-04 22:53:59
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Feb 4 2011, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why? Because I firmly believe that Beatrice is someone we don't want around?

- There is more than one "Beatrice". Sylandra has claimed the old one- the new one is the one who is probably out to murder us all and all that fun stuff.
- You haven't gotten off the Mariage since they came out as a group.
- In addition, you're pushing to make it so they can never get their powers, which might be incredibly useful to us.

The Beatrice member of the Mariage, in my eyes, is an easy target. I feel like you're trying to convince people that she's scum to deflect suspiscion off of everyone else.