Yggdra Union: Justice lies in the holy sword!

by Kiradawea

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Kiradawea2011-03-24 12:50:06
Crimson fog covers the battlefield as Tekora unleashes the power of Bloody Claw, creating an obscuring cloud that follows Casilu around, preventing her from focusing upon voting.

Casilu can't vote anymore today
Diamondais2011-03-24 14:58:11
This is begging the question of whether we'll have enough people to vote today. tongue.gif
Casilu2011-03-24 15:46:41
QUOTE (Gleip @ Mar 24 2011, 05:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This post here makes me err. Arix used the correct incantation for the Sanctuary card (which isn't character specific either.) and it did a rezz. And you're complaining that Arix did not do a protection. As if he needs to be able to prove it during daytime. That Caerulo can protect during daytime doesn't mean Arix would be able. In fact, to me it'd suggest otherwise as that'd make their roles exactly the same. If we think Arix raised a scum, then we kill Razenth. A doctor is far more valuable to keep around than an executioner.


A protection ability is almost always town, a rez is not so certain. The only condition where I've seen a protection power from scum is the Smalltown scenario. If the Smalltown is the case, then either one could be scum without Raz needing to be... even if Arix is. It would have been a normal town rez without any alignment changing since he would have had the power as town.

If I'm also remembering what Arix said about his rez power (someone please correct me or prove me correct with the quote), then he said it was a one-shot use of his protection power.
Gleip2011-03-24 19:17:50
QUOTE (casilu @ Mar 24 2011, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A protection ability is almost always town, a rez is not so certain. The only condition where I've seen a protection power from scum is the Smalltown scenario. If the Smalltown is the case, then either one could be scum without Raz needing to be... even if Arix is. It would have been a normal town rez without any alignment changing since he would have had the power as town.

If I'm also remembering what Arix said about his rez power (someone please correct me or prove me correct with the quote), then he said it was a one-shot use of his protection power.

And why is a rezz not so certain? Unlike being a doctor, which can protect fellow scum from vigs, a rezz can't be used to revive scum. Well, it could, but people would lynch the scum again immediately, and the rezzer shortly afterwards. So a scum would be better of not using it, as all he could do would be to add another person they must kill, due to being confirmed town by death. This being a smalltown mafia has merit, but it's also unrelated to if there are two doctors or not, and the proof you're expecting is honestly unreasonable. Arix can't very well "prove" that he's protector if his power doesn't permit for daytime protection.

Incidentally, in the games, Sanctuary could only be used during the day, so that could explain why Arix has a daytime rezz.
Casilu2011-03-24 19:42:43
QUOTE (Arix @ Mar 23 2011, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sanctuary is a protective power, the rez is part of sanctuary. and you have yet to prove that Caerulo actually protected Ssaliss last night, or that his action today was anything more than a oneshot power.



Gleip, do you see any problem with the quoted statement?
Ilyssa2011-03-24 19:43:22
Perhaps this is a bit reckless, and I know I've mostly been lurking for the game but considering everything it seems we are either lynching Arix or Caerulo. Arix might have possibly rezzed Razenth as Scum, so if we lynch Arix and he is scum then that means Razenth is too; if he is not we still have Razenth and will most likely lynch Caerulo. On the other hand, if we lynch Caerulo now and he turns out to be scum, then hooray we rooted one out and didn't touch a townie. I'm going to hold back my vote a little longer though, just to be safe.
Arix2011-03-25 11:07:51
Sanctuary is two parts: a night protect that's basicly Arix being a doctor, and a oneshot dayrezz.
Tekora2011-03-25 13:30:18
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Mar 22 2011, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While Caerulo puts up a flashy display of shining lights, a sudden arrow fired by Casilu almost strikes Arix, who is forced to seek cover to protect himself.

Arix has lost his vote for the day



QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Mar 24 2011, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Crimson fog covers the battlefield as Tekora unleashes the power of Bloody Claw, creating an obscuring cloud that follows Casilu around, preventing her from focusing upon voting.

Casilu can't vote anymore today


Has anyone noticed this yet? One of these things is not like the other. If we both used Bloody Claw, why are the messages so different?

Why don't you people see that this is not adding up?
Unknown2011-03-25 14:18:01
QUOTE (Tekora @ Mar 25 2011, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone noticed this yet? One of these things is not like the other. If we both used Bloody Claw, why are the messages so different?

Why don't you people see that this is not adding up?

Hrm, Casilu, do you have anything to say to that?
Ssaliss2011-03-25 14:27:56
The incantations were the same and both suffered a voteblock. I'm assuming the rest is just fluff, and not something that necessarily means anything.
Casilu2011-03-25 15:08:42
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Mar 25 2011, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hrm, Casilu, do you have anything to say to that?


Tekora's message sounds like a closet Fainite. Clearly that must make him a traitor.

Otherwise no. We used the same incantation with the same effect.
Unknown2011-03-25 16:55:01
Yeah, can't say I feel like that's a very compelling reason either.
Gleip2011-03-25 17:54:17
QUOTE (casilu @ Mar 24 2011, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gleip, do you see any problem with the quoted statement?

As far as I can see, it uses similar argumentation as you do, and suggest that his power works differently between day and night, which your power does as well. So no, I don't see any problem.

And the difference in flavour is pretty simple. Casilu is an assasin, a class who uses bow-type weapons, hence the arrow. Tekora is a thief, a class who uses axe-type weapons, hence no arrow.
Casilu2011-03-25 18:00:51
QUOTE (Gleip @ Mar 25 2011, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as I can see, it uses similar argumentation as you do, and suggest that his power works differently between day and night, which your power does as well. So no, I don't see any problem.


Not the problem I was hinting at. His power has one use during the day (that he can only use once ever) and once a night at night. When it comes to mine, I get one use per a day-night cycle. So, if I voteblock, I can't kill tonight.
Gleip2011-03-25 18:07:38
But it's Byff! There's no way Byff is scum! *fanboy*

Being serious, I can understand where you're coming from, but if so shouldn't that same argument be applied to Caerulo?
Casilu2011-03-25 18:09:19
QUOTE (Gleip @ Mar 25 2011, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it's Byff! There's no way Byff is scum! *fanboy*

Being serious, I can understand where you're coming from, but if so shouldn't that same argument be applied to Caerulo?


Did he ever say the day protection was one-shot or the night protection was? I'm pretty sure he didn't. I thought it was Arix or someone else who stated it might have been one-shot.
Gleip2011-03-25 18:10:13
Arix said his rezz was oneshot.
Gleip2011-03-25 18:15:17
Or... I thought he did, but I glanced over again and now I can't find it. Did I imagine Arix saying his rezz was one-shot?
Casilu2011-03-25 18:16:48
QUOTE (Gleip @ Mar 25 2011, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or... I thought he did, but I glanced over again and now I can't find it. Did I imagine Arix saying his rezz was one-shot?


No, he did. I was talking about Caerulo.

Arix's card is one-shot during the day, but he said the same power is the night protection.
Gleip2011-03-25 18:20:29
Right. It could be possible. My power is only useable during the day, but I can once make it a very powerful night action. Arix could be my opposite on that.