Yggdra Union: Justice lies in the holy sword!

by Kiradawea

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Unknown2011-04-13 07:33:09
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Apr 12 2011, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm against any use of Genocide for the time being. Killing Arath with that will probably just result in him coming back again, much like when I killed him before. Though I guess there are several remaining Bronquians left to choose from either way. Is it a one time skill when used for purposes other than double weighted vote or multiple use? Curious.

If someone more familiar with the flavor could give me a list of Bronquians, that would be awesome. I don't plan on using the power as it is, but if it comes to that, I'd at least like to know who the heck is on the list of people who qualify for sacrificial status.

And yes, the daykill half of Genocide is a one-time use. The vote strengthening part, however, is always there. I kind of wish they were separate powers, because I didn't even realize the vote part existed until I'd read through the power description a few times already. suspicious.gif
Unknown2011-04-13 10:20:44
Eudy, Baldus, Emilia, Aegina/Luciana. They're the top-ish ranked people. There's also like, Leon and possibly Russel but according to Vendetta only the first four are in the game.
Unknown2011-04-13 10:23:19
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Apr 13 2011, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For those that remain on the fence, do you have any input to make on the side?

Or any other questions for me, I suppose.


Why did you out yourself? There's no way you can win now unless you have another win condition you've kept quiet about.

My thought is that you reasoned that you would probably get outed by Arath anyway... but who was it that roleblocked Arath last night again?
Ushaara2011-04-13 10:41:39
I'm afraid I don't have much time to spend going over posts, but I suspect Vendetta is close to his (her?) win condition with Arath still alive being the last remaining obstacle. Then again Arath is still suspicious. I'd advocate Phoebus using her Genocide thing to kill the both of them off if she can. Otherwise, I'll wait to see which way Ssaliss votes.

Aww, no one wants me to be given the Ankh sad.gif.
Unknown2011-04-13 10:55:22
QUOTE (Ushaara @ Apr 13 2011, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm afraid I don't have much time to spend going over posts, but I suspect Vendetta is close to his (her?) win condition with Arath still alive being the last remaining obstacle. Then again Arath is still suspicious. I'd advocate Phoebus using her Genocide thing to kill the both of them off if she can. Otherwise, I'll wait to see which way Ssaliss votes.

Aww, no one wants me to be given the Ankh sad.gif.

Is one of them Bronquian? I can totally consider doing that if so. If not, then it's not even an option.
Kalaneya2011-04-13 12:04:36
Neither Marietta/Vendetta or Nessiah/Arath appear on that list of Bronquians.
Unknown2011-04-13 13:34:08
QUOTE (Solanis @ Apr 13 2011, 05:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why did you out yourself? There's no way you can win now unless you have another win condition you've kept quiet about.


I think I already went over this early in the day. You're right - I've pretty much thrown winning out of the window at this point. Even if Arath didn't exist, I'd have to rely on pretty much never raising suspicion ever in order to get by. Everyone else has spellcards they can name and use both day and night. Eventually, someone would expect me to use my spellcard to confirm who I am. And while I could claim to be someone else who I know is not present, like Mistel or Russell, I can't really guess who has which spellcards already, especially from the pool that are not character specific. This was further complicated by the fact that no one really claimed a name first. They used their cards and it was either immediately obvious or left with at least some ambiguity.

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My thought is that you reasoned that you would probably get outed by Arath anyway... but who was it that roleblocked Arath last night again?


Hard to tell. I guess there's two other known roleblockers who aren't talking on the subject, and there's also some mystery person who can curse, which has a similar end result. I would assume that it was neither Llesvelt nor Ilyssa, unless they have something to hide themselves.

Phoebus might consider asking the mod if the Bronquians in question must be Bronquian by origin of birth or by general overall alignment. Not knowing this makes it hard to determine on who it will work - Aegina and Luciana are Fantasinian royalty by blood and were born outside of Bronquia, for instance, while Elena was Bronquian but ends up in the Fantasinian faction.
Unknown2011-04-13 13:47:02
Hmm. In retrospect, we seem to have a lot of people with blocking powers who aren't using them to block. I think we've already gone over what I've done at night - what have you lot been doing when the sun goes down?
Ilyssa2011-04-13 14:41:05
Mine only works during the day. Btw, ankh plz nao >:
Ssaliss2011-04-13 19:55:01
Been reading what other people have posted, and so far, there has been no satisfactory answer as to why Vendetta targetted me instead of Arath if he thought Arath was the bigger threat. It's also fairly obvious that Vendetta has a hidden agenda, and considering he roleblocked me, odds are it's killing me. I'm guessing he's currently trying to place the blaim on Arath in the hopes that he'll survive to the night and use his nightkill then. With that said,

Vote Vendetta
Unknown2011-04-13 20:55:37
Ah, no faith in the doctor duo? It's okay, I've some idea of what being in such a position is like.

The roleblock isn't really something to get too upset over, though. It might not be curable, but it won't last forever either, you know.
Ssaliss2011-04-13 21:02:21
Well, odds are you've already made plans regarding them, if you're actually out to get me. It would be silly otherwise.
Unknown2011-04-13 21:07:12
I suppose. But if I just wanted you dead specifically, I would have waited for an opportunity to ninja a lynch and zap you in one fell swoop of a post. I certainly could have worked for that. Then I could have avoided this circus of a day entirely.
Unknown2011-04-13 21:08:39
Which, I forgot to add, would involve still needing some means of bypassing both Arix and Caerulo.

I'm really curious now. Do you suspect one of them? Or both?
Lilia2011-04-13 21:21:07
I've just realized something. What does Ilyssa need the ankhs for? According to what I've managed to find, Rosary and Roswell were looking for them. Roswell (Shamarah) is dead, so we should give them both to Rosary (Ushaara)
Unknown2011-04-13 21:25:02
While we're at it, does anyone else have a spell card that is usable only during the day or night?

The closest I can think of is Arix, but he still had a one-shot available during one of the phases.
Lilia2011-04-13 21:35:09
Wasn't Arix's the same card, just different effects depending on the phase? That's how mine works.
Gleip2011-04-13 21:42:52
Whoa whoa whoa! What is it with you? Arath? Scummy? Why the hell can you even say that? Because a self-admitted anti-town player says that he's scum? On what grounds? Arath was roleblocked tonight remember? And no, it wasn't the curse, and it wasn't frost. It was the same spasms that hit Yggdra/Ssaliss that stopped Arath today. Right there should be proof enough for you that Marietta is lying through her teeth. And no, she isn't a jester. Kira does not include Jesters so we don't need to wait for someone to dayvig. In fact, since Vendetta shot Yggdra with the Thunder, I'm pretty sure Yggdra is the only one who can harm her anyway. There seems to be quite a few character specific powers going on and about, so that wouldn't be on.

Vendetta's claim that she could never survive anyway falls flat on what we've seen thus far. Arath revealed Ileein to be an angel, and it took Ileein screwing up badly during day 3 before we even decided to send our vig to get rid of it. Vendetta could've been revealed as Marietta and lived a long, fruitful life by simply nudging us into killing of inactives as there's disgustingly many of them to pick from, but instead she's plays all her cards face up now. Why? Because she has a plan. It's as Ssaliss said. Kira loves to play with conventions, so Vendetta having a win condition that require us to lynch Nessiah would certainly work.

Vendetta also seems to have a way of knowing who everyone is. Quite a strong power. But why would she need such a power?

Seriously people, think. You are far too reliant on powers. But you don't spend a moment to think on what the powers imply.

And if you touch Genocide I'm gonna kill you hard Phoebus, k? We don't need more random kills at this stage.
Arath2011-04-13 21:54:51
Now now Eudy-kimi. No need to go fully fruitcake just cause you've yet to find a guy who can endure your pyromania. I will turn over the ankh once I'm certain you will not use it to further aide Asgard's cause.
Unknown2011-04-13 22:04:39
Oh, there we go. Finally.

QUOTE (Gleip @ Apr 13 2011, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vendetta's claim that she could never survive anyway falls flat on what we've seen thus far. Arath revealed Ileein to be an angel, and it took Ileein screwing up badly during day 3 before we even decided to send our vig to get rid of it. Vendetta could've been revealed as Marietta and lived a long, fruitful life by simply nudging us into killing of inactives as there's disgustingly many of them to pick from, but instead she's plays all her cards face up now.


Not really. #367 generally just did as it was told, and could conceivably be more likely to be swayed one way or another. I've always had a distinct allegiance. You even included me in a list of people for whom flavour should dictate being anti-town. I was surprised #367 was allowed to be let go long enough at that, however.

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Vendetta also seems to have a way of knowing who everyone is. Quite a strong power. But why would she need such a power?


Why do people need books and ankhs?

And I don't know who -everyone- is. I just know who's supposed to be present and accounted for.

It is also interesting that Gleip appears to also have the power to kill. This is starting to look like quite a revealing day, indeed!