And what reason would a Kalas or Ysav'rai ever have of dueling someone?

Editted to add: If they know how they can lose top honor, why would they ever take the risk? They can't gain more honor from it, can only lose, so there will be no point in ever doing it.

RP honor

You will quickly discover, if there is no mechanical reason behind it, no one will do it.

Besides, why care about Honor, when you can be winning? RP reasons is not enough, or else I wouldn't be the only Viscanti logged on, almost always.

No one cares about e-samurais, yes.

So assuming that Kalas do absolutely -nothing- to lose honour, they're locked at the top in spite of anything that anyone can do about it. That seems kind of lame and really kills the dynamic atmosphere the new system was supposed to have

Yeah it's pretty silly with no reset timer. I think we should have faith that Eventru will change it to something more creative and fair in the future.

Did anyone get non-plain-bashing honor for toppling a Demon Lord?

How did Kalas get their most honourable house back, I thought they lost it to Ysav'rai, and if everyone has 200k honour, the one that gets there first should keep it?

So Kalas lost honour, Ysav'rai beat them last month, and come the month change, it's Kalas again, even though Ysav'rai had 200k honour all that time. So essentially the function now seems to work like this.

If Kalas has 200k honour, nobody can overtake them.
If someone else has 200k honour and is first briefly due to Kalas screwing up, Kalas can become most honourable house again by simply hitting 200k again.

Is it just me, or is this a little broken? I think that deciding most honourable house from the 200k honour cap seriously needs to be looked at.

Edit: Hell, this system means that the houses who reach 200k 3rd or 4th have no chance ever of becoming top house; what are the chances that BOTH the houses in front would lose some honour to put them back from 200k at the same time?

My suspicion is that the little variable that said Kalas got it first and Kalas keeps it in the case of a tie was not unset when Kalas lost honour, therefore when they got back to 200k, they took it back. It's some kind of bug anyway... it was actually Eventru who pointed it out on envoys, asking if Ysav'rai had lost honour - we hadn't.

Either that or it depends on which house happens to be earlier (or later) in the database of houses. (The typical algorithm for finding the highest value, or for sorting, will break ties to the first or last in the list, depending on whether the comparison is > or >=.)

Not sure, haven't had a chance to look. I'll fix it as soon as I can, though!

Doesn't seem to be quite that, since POLITICS FAMILIES has (or at least had when I last checked) Ysav'rai on top with both at 200k.

I had an idea, involving family honor and publishing and whatnot. No idea if someone's said anything similar or not, sorry if they have!

A lot of people (myself included) were unhappy about publishing only gaining family honor if the book wins prestige (lame), and the reasoning was that people would publish garbage just for honor points. I don't agree with that, but I guess it's better to be safe than sorry.

So, the idea I had was that if your family submitted a successful critique against a book, you'd gain honor, and the family that tried to publish the crap book would lose honor. So it gives an encouragement to actually use the critiques (which I don't think I've ever seen used, ever, in my time of playing), and an encouragement to submit quality publications even if you don't think it's quite prestige winner material.

Only librarians/aides can submit critiques on books, so families would need someone as a librarian or library aide. I think the Eventru mentioned somewhere else that they were already working on a change to books earning prestige on publication, but I don't think he said what the change entailed.

Critiques are certainly used. They are the reason Glom's present 'credibility rating' is lower than others'. Hallifax has a critique'd book pending review as well (you guys trying to submit identical text for a 3rd time on a 50 point book). I think only the librarian is able to critique though, while generally the ways to gain/lose honour are equally available to all family members. I also don't want to see this because critiquing is a risk, and if you were going to lose honour, people would be even less hesitant than they now are to submit critiques.

Oh well, it was only a passing thought, and I totally don't know how all that stuff works. I guess I just wish the world of Lusternian publication was a little more competitive and exciting in a way that I could get into, haha.

I've said before I like the idea of a (small) honour gain for getting a book published and passing critique - honour loss in such a situation would only occur if a book was successfully critiqued. My concern is that an inept librarian could lose a family they are not a part of points by submitting a book too many times or whatever (although, I suppose, such could be said in the real world, too - a publisher can be the difference between a win and a flop!).

The difference being, you can choose your publisher IRL. You don't have options in the game.

I think a good family could convince the Council a librarian is inept and requires replacing.

Pot stirrer.