Are you talking about:



I'm all in favour of getting that reduced, especially given that the family type is forced upon historical families and is unchangeable...

Yes, although I love that line so very much.

I'm also looking at adding in honour gain for passing critiques, and losing honour if your book is successfully critiqued, for more honour gains for writers.

True, retiring from Vernal shouldn't be an honor loss, but what Lothringen did probably should've been, there is probably a big difference.

And that is why I also left in so vague, because I am not sure what is capable of being done. If, say, Kalas is an active Blood family, and d'Murani is an active culture family (not sure what to base activity on, or what all you can do) and the Demon Lords fall, and eventually the Necromentate falls, perhaps a minus tick for every weave that it is down? And that includes all the bannerhouses pledged to the families. Again, not sure what it is capable of doing, or what will define activity, or even how much the - tick is, perhaps dependent on the type of house you are.



2011/07/29 09:34:15 - Shame lowers the eyes of the House: Thoros's ruthless and violent nature is a common horror story for children everywhere.

It's how Kalas got MHF back a few days ago. I think Thoros has only gotten 3 maybe 4 of them total since this new update (he doesn't come around often), and no one else has. I'm not even sure how to incur it, or how many kills you need.

Also, I have always wondered, is this a bug:

2011/08/01 10:04:15 - The House's eyes are raised as its honour improves: Due to the workings of our fastidious subjects.
2011/08/01 10:04:15 - the Callous House of Feyranti has made little if any improvement, and so reflects upon us.
2011/08/01 10:04:15 - the Academic House of Koicei has made little if any improvement, and so reflects upon us.
2011/08/01 10:04:15 - the Progressive Notable House of n'Kylbar has made little if any improvement, and so reflects upon us.
2011/08/01 10:04:15 - the Progressive Academic House of d'Vanecu has made little if any improvement, and so reflects upon us.

I know that those houses (or most of them) are gaining honour, also know that it happens with Kalas with D'cente` and we all know Munsia produces all the honour by herself.

Kill tics can be cancelled out with hunting/influencing however... that one was not?

Yes, but if the kill tic can happened, you are sitting at 19900 +/- 20ish. Then you need to get the hunting tic back to 200k, and by then you have already lost MHF.

Tics are only computed at the end of the weave though. I'm too lazy to work out when Thoros' did happen, but you don't lose MHF right when it happens.

Wrong:

2011/07/29 06:59:14 - the Progressive Notable House of n'Kylbar has made little if any improvement, and so reflects upon us.
2011/07/29 06:59:14 - the Progressive Academic House of d'Vanecu has made little if any improvement, and so reflects upon us.
2011/07/29 08:45:07 - The House's eyes are raised as its honour improves: Thoros's ruthless hunting is well known throughout the lands.
2011/07/29 09:34:15 - Shame lowers the eyes of the House: Thoros's ruthless and violent nature is a common horror story for children everywhere.

Bolded is the weave.

"Active" gains are accrued all the time - ie if you kill enough mobs, you'll get the honour gain then-and-there. The same with players.

The weave gains are passive gains, like racial, bannerhouses, and so forth.

Edit: Nevermind, I misunderstood the question.

Oh alright, I was wrong.

Is this intentional (ie how it's going to remain)?

If the wealth thing goes through (and I hope it does!) it will be rather nifty, and give banks more purpose than for orgs!

And opens up the potential for buying (more) things for families with gold.

This is how it's been since before I started touching it - I'm kind of inclined to leave it this way (although I'm contemplating drastically lifting the ceiling, depending on whether or not we get more means of losing honour).

When will honour gained from publishing be going in, do you think?

Soon, my darling...

I feel as though the cap shouldn't be too high, because then it'll only ever go to a couple of families, which would stagnate the system for everyone but those families.

So what about diminishing returns, then?

Okay because I'm getting like, a crack addict's twitch just thinking about it

I think a better implementation would be more honour losses then the honour cap, as outlined by most people here. An increase in most honour losses like someone leaving the city, maybe effected more if they held a position, cityrank, or Vernal.

Editted to add: Forgot to say that more honour losses is probably a better, perhaps submitting a book that receives a poor review (I don't know anything about it), failing to defend your city, a family member killing another, a family member raiding a city/plane that the family is pledged too, losing an election that you try to win. Other ideas I'm sure.