The simple answer is "there is no such thing as a non-com." If you have to think, "But what if I...", you are getting involved.

Any mechanical system meant to protect "non-coms" from any and all combat will be abused and will fail.

This is a very valid point and is something I find myself wholeheartedly having to agree with.

nerf choke

We (Glomdoring) generally leave Xiran alone because of her resolute pacifism. Like earlier, when she walked headlong into a huge group of us prepared to spring.

Because of your name, I thought the topic was drinking in Lusternia.

This is why I am going to work very, very hard on the TA this year.

Be sure not to get Druken with power if you win.

I'm a non-com. I have logs to prove it.

See, even the game knows.

Gah. This is true. And Xiran shall now observe in addition to scenting.

I dislike the idea of mechanically enforced non-combatant status. It's nice to have gradients, and I would miss a lot of fun interactions.

Yeesh, even I have kills. You non-com.

Or we can just make a drinking in Lusternia topic. WE DEMAND ESTARRA UPDATE THE DRINKING AND DRUGS SYSTEM.

What? No griefing your own liver.

I think by having any system that limits a players ability to explore, for example the ability to enter contested areas, would serve to limit the players ability to enjoy the different areas of the game as well as complete certain tasks that some organizations require for advancement.

In my opinion, once you leave the status of grace, you are considered fair game for anything, if you choose to not fight, thats fine, you still dont get to choose if you get ganked....if you want to stand there and take it without fighting back that is your decision.



I was there for the above mentioned statement and I also ran into Xiran earlier in that day in Faethron. If a player is not enemied by a particular area but they are venturing into enemy territory, it should be up to the discression of the City/Commune what to do with them. In this case, Xiran was only checking and exploring the Aetherbubble she was on, she was not seeking combat so we did not engage her. If we thought she was a threat we may have acted differently. She ran into us (Glomdoring) and immediately recieved hits as we were ready to assault anything but we quickly saw she was not a threat and left her alone, even had small talk.

It is simply a question of how a City/Commune would like to push its politics on other factions. The collective of players mixed with each players unique wants for their character are ultimately what decides if a player is Non-Com or not. I think the current system works fine.

I wish all encounters went like that. I feel like laughing at the Fate Guides every time I hear one of them say "organizations try not to harm novices" or whatever it is they say. In the past, that was the case. You were given certain leeway if you were a novice, even if you were from an "enemy" org. That hasn't been the case in years. Now novices are considered easy kills that should be sought out.

I did appreciate the fact that Sidd debated me the other day in the fae gardens, instead of trying to kill me, allowing me to run away and hide in prime Seren. Respect, Sidd.

With the exception of Takami (far as I know, he was dealt with), if I caught someone killing lowbies just for the fun of it (meaning they did nothing to provoke the attack), I would definitely "liberate" the out of them.

If this is the case with Celestians attacking, say, Seren novices - don't hesitate to contact someone on the Star Council about it. That type of behaviour isn't tolerated. Sometimes it needs to be brought to light, though. And I am more than happy to throw my weight around to punish novice-killers.

AFAIK, the same goes for Glom. I've never seen anyone attack the random Seren novice that pops out at our Nexus through the portals. Sure, we tell them to get out, but that's about as far as it goes (unless, of course, they refuse).

I've had that argument before, an organization does not try to harm a newbies unless they're going out of their way to annoy people (i.e. refusing to go, sitting at the nexus swearing, etc.) to which Innocence still protects them which means guards have to deal with them. There are people who do hunt down newbies, and I'm rather certain every org has had one at one point or another so I'm not going to point fingers, but they get dealt with rather quickly because too many people don't agree with it and the admin certainly don't like letting it happen.

One person does not equal an organization.

Heresy. What you really mean is, to paraphrase Ben Franklin, "One person does not equal an organization in the first person; it only does in the third person."

Whoa Whoa Whoa, don't be announcing this to the public, now I have to kill you to maintain the rep