Which is the most empty city?

by Morbo

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Casilu2011-08-16 01:12:19
QUOTE (Ilyys @ Aug 15 2011, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No.

However, I think (as someone who has been around since the beginning in one form or another) that there's a problem with the organizational alignment as it is right now. Specifically, that orgs which have pacts with the Illithoid are allied with orgs that have pacts with the Kephera. From my perspective, this is a real problem. I can't say how Gaudiguch/Hallifax should/will come into play, but I feel that a lot of history (history basic enough to be included in the help files for the monk guilds) has been thrown out the window completely for reasons that I admit I don't understand but nevertheless do not, as far as I know, have a valid roleplay reason.

tl;dr I don't see why there are Ill/Keph alliances against Ill/Keph orgs. Also, I've been drinking.



The Undervault is one of those things people sweep under the rug until it is brought up by some event. Like... listening to Maeve.
Enyalida2011-08-16 01:29:27
I hate the idea that because of the way admins setup each nations skills, they should be perma aligned with some other nation. Having Kepheran nations aligned with Illithoid nations is 100% okay in my book, more then 100% if you have some explicit workaround for it IC.
Seraku2011-08-16 01:32:48
I think the best weapon for gaudi monks to have would be the katar, an indian punching dagger meant to get in between armour plates and other bones. To see it in action there's a deadliest warrior episode with them in it.
Lendren2011-08-16 02:06:33
QUOTE (Enyalida @ Aug 15 2011, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hate the idea that because of the way admins setup each nations skills, they should be perma aligned with some other nation. Having Kepheran nations aligned with Illithoid nations is 100% okay in my book, more then 100% if you have some explicit workaround for it IC.

I think it should be up to us; but I also think it should be for IC reasons. It seems we can't have both of those things in the present climate. So the only thing there is left to argue about is, which one is more important? People who pick either side really can't fault those who picked the other side; they're both compelling, it mostly comes down to personal preference.
Ilyys2011-08-16 04:55:18
If there was a legitimate IC reason for a Keph/Ill alliance I could support it. And, of course, I'm not saying there isn't one, I'm saying that - since I've missed a lot of time throughout the years - I don't know what it is. I only know that I remember the release of those two races and their respective guilds. Then I come back and Gaudifax have been released and there are alliances that I don't understand ICly or OOCly.

That being said, I'm not complaining. Perhaps my favourite thing about Lusternia, as opposed to every other IRE game, is the fluidity of alliances, as opposed to the forced alliances of other games - i.e. magic/demonic/antimagic of Imperian, life/undeath in Aetolia. The lack of forced black and white sides in Lusternia adds a third dimension that keeps me coming back here for the past nearly-seven years, while I've abandoned all the other games.
Lilia2011-08-16 05:56:00
That's one of the things I've always loved about Lusternia. There are valid, historical, reasons for every org to hate all the others, and equally valid, modern, scenarios that could lead that same org to an alliance with anyone else. Is the Kephera/Illithoid dynamic more important to the orgs involved than the other dynamics? Apparently not.
Ilyys2011-08-16 09:10:12
QUOTE (Lilia @ Aug 16 2011, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Things.


This.

If I weren't already so attached to Ilyys and so unable to handle playing two characters, I'd alt just so I could roleplay the experience of being in an org that was allied with what should be my mortal enemies.

And that's the end of my topic-derailing Lusternia love. Sorry about all that!
Unknown2011-08-16 11:08:02
My OTP for Lusternia nations is

The Most Holy Commonwealth of New Hallifax (which resulted from a corporate takeover of the Celestine Ecclesiarchy) and their valued trading partner, Magnagora (retroconquered by Sentinel Company in 800 BCoE)

vs.

The New Forest Conclaves of Serenwyrd, New Gloriana (both renamed in the Sero-Glomic Peace Accords) and Gaudiguch (now a commune after the pyromancers learn to grow fire blossoms so they can cast sap)

vs.

The Reclaimer's Alliance, founded by Jojobo, Icewynd and Ackleberry, and devoted to spreading forests to the Souless-blighted regions beyond the Basin of Life
Unknown2011-08-16 16:07:30
QUOTE (Seraku @ Aug 15 2011, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the best weapon for gaudi monks to have would be the katar, an indian punching dagger meant to get in between armour plates and other bones. To see it in action there's a deadliest warrior episode with them in it.

Katar are way, way too similar to nekai for that to be the case, in my opinion. Maybe, though!
Arcanis2011-08-17 16:06:25
You know, the idea that Gaudiguch monks might get daggers and mixed with stealth them being "daggers in the shadows", really does make sense. In my time around, I was interested in trying to find hints of what might Gaudiguch and Hallifax monks get. Sadly I was hitting dead ends, but the descriptions of the Kephera in Hallifax and Illithoid in Gaudiguch helped out a bit.

The Kephera in Hallifax definetly shows Hallifax getting something associated with colors and shapes I think, it was very odd really.

The Illithoid in Gaudiguch didnt give any information at all mostly. The only noticable thing was that they were cloaked from head to toe (I think in a colorful cloak as well), and that all we could see was the illithoid's eyes and gaunt face. At first I wasnt sure what this meant until I saw the mention of daggers here, so I think maybe beneath that cloak the illithoid would have dozens of daggers that they could send flying (HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS biggrin.gif biggrin.gif). Who knows?!?!
Eventru2011-08-17 16:53:29
QUOTE (Arcanis @ Aug 17 2011, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, the idea that Gaudiguch monks might get daggers and mixed with stealth them being "daggers in the shadows", really does make sense. In my time around, I was interested in trying to find hints of what might Gaudiguch and Hallifax monks get. Sadly I was hitting dead ends, but the descriptions of the Kephera in Hallifax and Illithoid in Gaudiguch helped out a bit.

The Kephera in Hallifax definetly shows Hallifax getting something associated with colors and shapes I think, it was very odd really.

The Illithoid in Gaudiguch didnt give any information at all mostly. The only noticable thing was that they were cloaked from head to toe (I think in a colorful cloak as well), and that all we could see was the illithoid's eyes and gaunt face. At first I wasnt sure what this meant until I saw the mention of daggers here, so I think maybe beneath that cloak the illithoid would have dozens of daggers that they could send flying (HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS biggrin.gif biggrin.gif). Who knows?!?!


It could be that an illithoid, being born in a damp, wet, dark space with no light and pale, slimy flesh probably doesn't do too well in a hot, scorching volcanicy desert environment, so it keeps itself cloaked. Really, they probably aren't very fond of light in general, particularly 'sunlight'. But what do I know? (Oh right.)

I really don't see how you got colors and shapes from the kephera, though.
Daraius2011-08-17 17:07:49
Hallifax is all about colors and shapes, so I'd say it's a safe enough bet. biggrin.gif
Casilu2011-08-17 17:28:13
QUOTE (Daraius @ Aug 17 2011, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hallifax is all about colors and shapes, so I'd say it's a safe enough bet. biggrin.gif


Our monk spec will use rythmic gymnastic ribbons.
Unknown2011-08-17 18:23:43
While an interesting, albeit jazzy, concept, I am 98% sure Ambassador Horotep's aetheric instrument with the shapes and colors is merely tied to his collegium quest, and not the monk spec.
Illidor2011-08-17 19:39:14

Wind Wheels.


Fire Wheels.
Unknown2011-08-17 20:00:13
Those are stylized shofa tongue.gif
Enyalida2011-08-17 20:26:35
Stylized and impractical!

I'm more interested with the new bard guilds, really. Had a conversation with Rathan about how they could work out, and what style of music they'd be.
Lendren2011-08-17 20:37:40
I think Hallifax's is doomed to match its stage in style.
Ytran2011-08-17 20:40:38
Hallifax's bards will be progressive, symphonic metal.
Ushaara2011-08-17 21:31:29
That Opera spec Elostian wrote up would be awesome though...