Look at it this way.

Not even two days ago, Celeglom took down the DLs and spheres. Magnagora and Hallifax are still trying to recover from it.

You're complaining about a 4am (for Americans) raid that will probably only affect a tenth (if that) of the people the smob raids affected. Who are the
ing bags?

Oh? You're saying that because you just raided and you got nobody at that time?

Edit: Actually, I don't think what you said is true. Ixion, Estwald, Hyde, Lothringen, Akyaevin and Sahman aren't on. Just Xarcon for mags that I see.

Dying quite a bit sucks, but finding out the Primary Generator and the Necromentate fell is a nice way to make me smile

Necro isn't dead... sorry to burst thy bubble

Is that like the two times Drachou was supposed to die but didn't?

Yes, I love it when bugs work in our favor! Must be how Kalas feels right now.

Oh yeah! I love it too. It feels real good, eh?

Having a text dream makes me feel like a nerd. Having a text dream where Sylandra is in the room when I log in but gone when I 'who here' makes me feel like a sad nerd.

Aramel: I try to make sure the low and midbies get credit too. (Even when they aren't part of my family, shockingly!)

Now it is!

I lol'd but aww!

Celeglom has the courtesy to raid during prime time - this isn't a middle-of-the-night attack where no one else is around and there is no hope to thwart the raid, this is a prime time attack where there were plenty of people on both sides who could have defended (granted this has been discussed enough in morbo's thread so... let's not debate about it here?).

So because people feel butthurt over it, they've decided they're going to raid at 4am to 6am west coast time. It's not exactly the time they choose, it's the fact that there is no one who can raise a hand in defence, which is when the gettin's good, I suppose.

So. Yeah. To me, that makes them ing bags. They could at least get their together and attempt a raid prime-time and make it fun for everyone, but they seem to like to wait until the ass crack of dawn. This is something I noticed has not changed over the years, and is consistent behaviour, not once-in-a-while happenings.

I feel like I need to point out that this is going to turn into one of those tear-worthy, bitter, angry forum discussions that will inevitably cause thread lockage.

And weekends like this are why tougher smobs are a good thing. Some people like it, some people like it but either don't realize/remember/have experienced what it is like when it happened way more frequently, and some people just want to put their head through a wall or two regardless.

I don't think Hallifax or Magnagora found the raids (and the aftermaths) very fun, so I'm not sure how the raids were fun for "everyone".

Everybody does that.

The last thing we would want is to walk into your unescapable fortress when all the guards are on alert.

And, there are so, so many forms of baggery from which to choose!

translation... I'm mad we couldn't do anything /endquote

I wasn't comparing the 4am raids to the big smob raids to begin with. You did that. I'm not really inclined to argue/justify my dislike of 4am raids, so I'm going to... drop it. Snarky lady.

-popcorn-

I guess that is the tl;dr version - yeah.