QUOTE (Phoebus @ Jul 22 2011, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do want to learn. There's just very few people available to teach me. I can't really speak for anyone else, but I really wish there was someone who could teach me things, about defending, group combat, etc. Every time I've had the chance to learn new things it's been exciting and I enjoy it, but most of the time I just get told I'm doing things wrong with no constructive information to go along with it. I try to teach everyone who asks me what I already know, but compared to what I need to know, it's a very small amount of information. If I had the information to share, I would share it!
The new thing DOES come up a lot. Like when we were trying to crown Thoril. We're sitting around going "uhhh...okaaaay?" at clues, while one guy from Celest already knows what all the clues are and gets the pieces before we can. That's just one example. We're trying, and learning- but learning is a process, and we can't figure it all out at once. It'll take time! We have learned things, but there's still soooo much more to learn.
The new thing DOES come up a lot. Like when we were trying to crown Thoril. We're sitting around going "uhhh...okaaaay?" at clues, while one guy from Celest already knows what all the clues are and gets the pieces before we can. That's just one example. We're trying, and learning- but learning is a process, and we can't figure it all out at once. It'll take time! We have learned things, but there's still soooo much more to learn.
Frankly, it's not so much about teaching as doing. We learned through experience ourselves. That said, they keep adding new Thoril clues so I am hopelessly out-of-date myself.
But nobody's really taught me the general things that need to be done; it's all been trial and error, and over a year there is a lot of time for such.But in regards to raids, defending, and the like... the best way to learn is the hard way, imo. Figure out what you did wrong and do something different next time. That's how the rest of us learned (and still are learning; often something new comes up and needs to be dealt with, like us continually wiping to DLs because someone ATTACKS THE WRONG BLOODY DEMONLORD).
Teaching only goes so far in the end.
I do understand the feeling of being kicked and under-the-bus. Glomdoring, after its first year, wasn't exactly in great shape either! But if all you do is say, "Oh, we just don't have anyone who knows what to do," then you'll never have anyone who knows what to do.
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Jul 22 2011, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Frankly, it's not so much about teaching as doing. We learned through experience ourselves. That said, they keep adding new Thoril clues so I am hopelessly out-of-date myself. But nobody's really taught me the general things that need to be done; it's all been trial and error, and over a year there is a lot of time for such.
But in regards to raids, defending, and the like... the best way to learn is the hard way, imo. Figure out what you did wrong and do something different next time. That's how the rest of us learned (and still are learning; often something new comes up and needs to be dealt with, like us continually wiping to DLs because someone ATTACKS THE WRONG BLOODY DEMONLORD).
Teaching only goes so far in the end.
I do understand the feeling of being kicked and under-the-bus. Glomdoring, after its first year, wasn't exactly in great shape either! But if all you do is say, "Oh, we just don't have anyone who knows what to do," then you'll never have anyone who knows what to do.
But nobody's really taught me the general things that need to be done; it's all been trial and error, and over a year there is a lot of time for such.But in regards to raids, defending, and the like... the best way to learn is the hard way, imo. Figure out what you did wrong and do something different next time. That's how the rest of us learned (and still are learning; often something new comes up and needs to be dealt with, like us continually wiping to DLs because someone ATTACKS THE WRONG BLOODY DEMONLORD).
Teaching only goes so far in the end.
I do understand the feeling of being kicked and under-the-bus. Glomdoring, after its first year, wasn't exactly in great shape either! But if all you do is say, "Oh, we just don't have anyone who knows what to do," then you'll never have anyone who knows what to do.
When I try to do, I get told I'm doing things wrong and don't have any constructive advice on what is the right way, as I said. And I'm not trying to say "we don't know anything and we won't forever so there!!", I'm going more for "we're still learning". Oh my gosh stop trying to make everything I say into something it isn't meant to be aaaaaa why am I still replying to you
Ok. Ok. Getting the last word in is not that important. Just gonna walk away. No more correcting things. Just gonna...draw some pictures. I will not fall any further into this pit of despair.
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Jul 22 2011, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have been writing this post for at least 25 minutes.
I thought she was gonna have something longer too.
