rika:

I always thought you should be able to see if they were enemies of your guild/commune/order. Right now the only way to check (assuming they are in neutral territory) is by going through the entire list, which can be quite long and spammy.

For this, you can ENEMIES :


5520h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 24900en, 27900w ex<>- city enemies shuyin
Enemies of the Grand Dominion of Hallifax:
Shuyin
Total: 1
5520h, 6000m, 5100e, 10p, 24900en, 27900w ex<>-

EDIT: I assume this works for guild/order enemies, as well.

Oh hey, I forgot you can filter. Never mind then. :)

Said 11 year old is no longer 11, she just had no idea so many people were bothered by it.

No more policing, geez.

Next it will be preset selection, or worse, a generic message that you can spend yet more demi points on.

Pass.


It is fine. This isn't a shout, or a zap, or something that's jammed in your face. I suppose someone could force action honours you to trigger an illusion, but that is really specific, and once it goes off, the game is up and could easily be issued. Certainly not something that requires active monitoring.

Everything outside of that is in control of the person viewing the honours.

"But Akuuuuui, sometimes you need to know if someone is a city enemy or not and this blocks that!"

For 325 credits (which seems in general a bit jerk move to me, after the price had been established, and some people paid substantially less, if that is the case- but that's a different conversation) that doesn't seem a big deal. Nothing "city enemies" and a highlight couldn't fix. (Or if the city enemies command produced an alphabatized list). EDIT - oh hey, you can filter it. Not even an issue at all then.

"But Akuuuuui, someone is pretending to be 11 years old!"

Are they? Or are they just screwing with people using a magical artifact? Even if they are 11 somehow, do all races age at the same rate? Even if they do, I have a hard time even giving a passing thought to this as a problem.

I mean, apparently sacrificing babies, drugging, binding, and performing dark rituals on centaur children, enslaving and killing viscanti children, general slavery, tourture, genocide, unprovoked murder for fun/profit/power, brainwashing, self mutilation, and probably scads of petty depravities that I've forgotten are acceptable...

But someone setting their honours (not their actual age mind you) to 11? Le Gasp! Le Faint! Maude, fetch the smelling salts.

"But they're married!"

1) They aren't really 11. It is an illusion created by the scroll. When they type "score", their age is not 11. and C) (yes C) Given the setting and all the above, and the fact that it is magical coo coo world, is this really something to get hung up on?

Rhetorical question. The answer is no.

Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem either. To echo Akui, they're not eleven year old. They just bribed someone to edit their birth certificate.

Phred:

Honours is the Lusternia equivalent of Facebook.

(Seriously, I always saw messages, aetherchannles, and the news network as a sort of mental Internet).

I always assumed something similar, that honors et al were something implicit to the way the world worked IC similar to the fact that everyone can know each others names at a glance (which may just be me, as I assume everything is IC unless otherwise informed).

And I agree with some degree of policing, if not because of lack of RP or 'exploits' or whathaveyou then for the sake of things having monitored quality. Everything else we submit is (effectively).

I sometimes ignore people if they address me by name without ever having met me

Facebook isn't mandatory - that's where the analogy falls apart.

I don't see monitoring the Scroll of Laurels going any more efficiently or precisely as monitoring mottos/warcries. I think we've come to accept that people are allowed to do stupid stuff with those - if someone wants to spend 325cr to make a horde of mad clowns honk the nose of whoever honours them, then they're entitled to that.

I also changed my own honours based on other people having negative feelings about the original message, so I won't accept arguments about my attitude being poor either. :P

When I first saw the age message (sorry to mention this again, Nihta, when you've changed it and everything) I thought it was a bug in the honours line, and I would have reported it if someone hadn't explained it. Same for the Request Denied one, since I didn't know the Fain story there.

Having something as commonly used as honours not just break immersion like that but make me think a part of the game is broken is very jarring.

The IC ones- Nienla's, Vathael's, what Nihta changed hers too- don't break immersion and add a nice flavour. It's less convenient to find the information I really need or am interested in- enemy statuses, engagements/bloodbindings, etc.- but possible.

I'm sorry, I'm too lazy to read the rest of this.

But make it subject to admin scrutiny/approval.

Eliron:

When I first saw the age message (sorry to mention this again, Nihta, when you've changed it and everything) I thought it was a bug in the honours line, and I would have reported it if someone hadn't explained it. Same for the Request Denied one, since I didn't know the Fain story there.

I see HONOURS as summoning up a file from the Hall of Records, so "Request Denied" makes me giggle uncontrollably.

Since mine was brought up I'll address it. Yes it's IC, yes it's somewhat comical, but it has a background and is entirely appropriate for my character of which I can explain to anyone who wants to know in game. I've had scores of people compliment it and that it made them laugh/giggle/smile/etc, enemies and friends alike of which some don't even know the story behind it.

That said, I'd be fine with doing away with all of them for a refund if people can't keep them reasonable. Everyone hates upkeep so I can't imagine the admins want to be bothered to police such a trivial thing (precedent: custom zaps)

Phred:
which is why new games like Skyrim and Fable 3 preventing you from killing children, for instance.

I'm glad videogames are a more accessible medium nowadays, but sometimes the protectiveness of the ESRB borders on insanity. Shooting kids eyes out in Fallout 2 was so much fun.

It's someone bothersome that the scroll keeps me from checking is someone is an enemy or not though. Easily at least. Am I supposed to scroll through the CITY ENEMIES list every time I see someone up on fire?

Kialkarkea:

It's someone bothersome that the scroll keeps me from checking is someone is an enemy or not though. Easily at least.

CITY ENEMIES - will filter out all the other names and look for only that name.