We also can't strip kafe, sobsob :'(

If they don't cure insomnia before blue hits, it does strip kafe. But that like never happends, so true.

Not sure if we can get a command skill though, I'd love to have one, but they don't like copycat stuff and necroscream has one already.

Daereth:

If they don't cure insomnia before blue hits, it does strip kafe. But that like never happends, so true.

Sure about that? When I tested it with Eritheyl all I got was the damage but still had kafe.

Daereth:

Okay, I would like people to stop comparing it to love potion. Love potion ticks whenever, where ever and also has the downside of making you attracted to them. <- This is not a viable method for a bard, if you think so, you need mental help.

The song ticks every 10s, but you have to hear the song for it to work, obviously. Let's not even mention the horribly low percentage to work so that we can't even compare it to harmony pharamones. This is not an op change, it just makes it -slightly- better than it is now.

Daereth:

My evidence wasn't incorrect. It's a perfectly reasonable statement. The only evidence you have against love potion not being viable is an affliction that makes you attack everyone. I'll be sure to tell anyone I happen to be attacking by accident, 'Sorry, my bad. Enyalida says you should use earwort. No, you can't have my passive affliction curing, apparently I don't need it either.'

The point is that it being possible, does not mean it's viable. One on one, sure, I suppose I could use love potion. Not against Shuyin though, unless I want empressed into the catacombs. But in group situations where most, but not everyone likes to use earwort, paranoia is not the best option.

Things don't need to be viable 100% of the time. There's absolutely no reason to have every strategy the exact same way for everything. That makes life incredibly boring. It's much for fun to have to take into consideration different things. This being said, just because using love potion is a bad idea sometimes, it doesn't mean using love potion is a bad idea all the time, which is exactly what you said in the first quote. You then went back on that and said, sure I could use it sometimes. but not all the time. I've used paranoia and love potion as a druid to fight multiple people by myself (yes I got hit with effects, but taking a second or two to cure out was better than fighting against two love potions), and it actually worked out great one time and failed miserably another.

Sidd:
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At the time, I hadn't thought of paranoia. I acknowledge that it could be used in some situations, but still hold to wanting a better solution. You find lust useful, therefore you want to use it. I need lust, therefore I have to use it.

@Rika Fairly sure, I fought draylor and I saw in the log it stripping kafe. I think he was asleep though.. I can't remember. But I do know insomnia has to be down. Maybe it only strips on double sleep with insomnia down? Either way, not useful at all.

When would you use CrimsonCourante? Or rather is Minor second/Loralchord on balance or eq recovery?
And has bard damage always been 100% charisma? I remember Int being the primary stat to determine damage... it's been a while.

Shou:

When would you use CrimsonCourante? Or rather is Minor second/Loralchord on balance or eq recovery?
And has bard damage always been 100% charisma? I remember Int being the primary stat to determine damage... it's been a while.

Magical(Charisma) means it's split between int and cha, both affecting. It's always been this way.
You'd use CC with tarot flings, which is balance. M2/LC are on eq.

50% int, 50% cha.

eritheyl:

We also can't strip kafe, sobsob :'(

Use a sleep enchant or beast spit morphite, or sleepcloud!

Does not strip kafe.

You weave your hands and conjure flaring fountains of dazzling light in front of Zynna, who winces
in pain as she stares blankly.
48.4m 156 (Water) -Zynna-(-550 Mana)
You have recovered equilibrium.
48.4m 156 (Water) -Zynna-(+75 Mana)
With a loud hiss, a pale chimaera with crimson wings spits a stream of foul liquid into the face of
Zynna.
48.4m 156 (Water) -Zynna-(-75 Mana)
You weave a soothing, mesmerizing glamour around Zynna, lulling her into a gentle slumber.
Zynna's eyes close suddenly as she falls asleep.
48.4m 156 (Water) -Zynna-(-100 Mana)
Zynna opens her eyes and yawns mightily.
48.4m 156 (Water) -Zynna-
Zynna clenches her fists and grits her teeth.
48.4m 156 (Water) -Zynna-
Zynna stands up and stretches her arms out wide.
48.4m 156 (Water) -Zynna-
Zynna easily vaults onto the back of a temperamental pegasus with black wings.

If your target has insomnia and kafe up, you will need to hit them with three sleep attacks at once to strip kafe. Kafe only goes down if they're hit with sleep while already asleep. So you would need to use sleepcloud/morphite and hope your song hits with double sleep. Since BlueBerceuse has a different effect on an already sleeping target, I highly doubt it will strip kafe along with the damage.

Shou:

When would you use CrimsonCourante?

You pretty much wouldn't unless you have a group of ten allies who are all monks or warriors.

Quick, everyone make a Sentinel alt. Go!

Ushaara:
Quick, everyone make a Sentinel alt. Go!

Tried that, didn't like it. Remembered I hated alts and being a warrior.

But guys, use converge! It's as good as reality, I promise.

Well, if all you're using reality for is to explore, then yes, converge is just as good as reality, if a bit more of a hassle ;)

Don't make assumptions about my posts, reality is definitely better at group separation, but not as good as land!

Take that nonsense to a different thread, please!

But but but I didn't start it! :(

Draylor:

Does not strip kafe.

It does strip kafe you just need to hit them with it while they are asleep, which would be right after BlueBercuese hits. All about the timing!

Not that it really matters.

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Your move.