* Power to imbue your beast's attack; it gives it a custom attack message (from a list of options).
- Potentially also increase the damage it does on its BEAST ORDER ATTACK damage type (not poison breath damage or anything else). Possibly only have it give that increased damage against NPCs.
- Alternative additional idea, have the custom attack messages change the damage type.
* Demigod aura that makes NPC shielding less effective (50% chance that when an NPC tries to shield with you in the room and the aura up, the shield immediately flickers and fades).
* Ability to imbue your beast with powers of persuasion, significantly increasing its effect on all influence types it has been trained with. Lasts an hour.

Razenth:

No, don't make us DemiFlexâ„¢, give us tiered weight!

I'm under the impression that we can do both at the same time, actually.

Razenth:

No, don't make us DemiFlexâ„¢, give us tiered weight!

DemiFlexâ„¢ is part of the original idea, and is far preferable than being locked in to a certain amount of abilities... because even with 'tiered weighting' you will eventually cap out at whatever the new cap is decided to be.

There's some room for tiered weighting in an essence cap system too as has been suggested earlier, but DemiFlexâ„¢ is an absolutely essential part of the endgame system overhaul... regardless of whether or not tiered weighting is implemented. Ephemeral as it is is broken.

* Scry blocking skill, lasts 30 seconds, can be used once an IC day.
* PersonalBanker; you can access any bank from anywhere.
- Possibly require you to be in a bank still, but you can withdraw from Magnagora's accounts without going to Magnagora's banks.
- Works for any guilds or cartels you can access the bank accounts for.
* Ability to recharge items (possibly not energy cubes) using essence.

(I think I'm starting to scrape the bottom of my creativity barrel tonight, so, think I'm done for now!)

What about a power that lets you see what room or area a gate opens into? I was exploring Mount Dio once and was trying to find a rift that I could use to get in without doing the normal quest and I ended up having a minor heart attack when I transversed into EtherGlom; being able to see where the gates in e.g. the Crystal Meadows lead without having some chance at instadeath on the other side would be useful. Unless there's already some way to do this and I've just completely missed it.

I remember it being said that Centaurs were originally intended to be a player race but it was dropped due to the logistics of having four legs. Sileni are meant to be extinct. The others work though.

Genesis:

10 mil essence: Return to any level for 1 month (or 1 day, numbers tweakable)
GENESIS REMEMBER <1-99>
GENESIS END (cancels it early)

I'm thinking it might be interesting if we got more flavour/utility powers that enhance being a demigod/ascendant of a particular race. Kinda cycling back to a couple of racial ideas brewed up awhile ago, certain things like:

Aslaran/Loboshigaru Demigods/Ascendants: forming the pride/pack for x-amount of essence.

Dracnari/Kephera Demigods/Ascendants: being able to shed skin for some flavour/utility effect. Limits as appropriate, of course.

So on and so forth, pairing up the other races with similarities if wanted. Humans and Viscanti, Merian and Mugwump, Elfen and Faeling, etc, etc.


Yes, they're ideas covered before, preferably new(-ish) effects that have not been covered before. How this would relate to changelings is beyond me or for those who like to reincarnate with daggers often, but I figure if people latch onto it, they can clarify it themselves. -throws more ideas out-

how about an apparel item that demigods can infuse themselves with? For example, you can infuse yourself with a robe or a helmet that becomes part of your natural body, so they no longer decay, and that they can be then changed a little bit, maybe rewritten for an essence cost. So for the more chaos orientated demi's, they can infuse themselves with a helmet that starts growing spikes as part of the description. Would kind of become something of tattoo show off thing, where people can see that specific thing outlined when they look at you. Or for more nature orientated people, you would get life sprouting from an arm gear. Or for those with kata forms that want to pull off the falcon punch, they could have fire flaming from their bracelet.

Or something very cool that demigods could go, would be to kind of decapitate a part of their own body, and be able to leave a hand in the room that would randomly grab people in the room. Or you could place a pedestal in a room with a demi's head on top that allows you to speak to people around you (and really freak out the novices)

edit: more ideas:

demigod essence can be converted to god essence
willful creation: demigods can will certain things into creation with an essence cost
faster swimming, faster flying?
be able to transform into animals, the perfect disguise. Gives a basic attack, for example the shark bite or dolphin attack. Deer or stag, spider...
or transform into a vermin: rat, weevil, pigeon, lizard.
be able to jump over barriers, like horkvals could in achaea
be able to create something like milestones, by gathering essence in an area. But other demigods can come and take that essence - mortals can't see it though.
better use of certain weapons?
being in a squad with a demigod can give more power to the city or commune in formation
more family honor for those with demigods in the family?
Demigods get a bit more resistance to alcohol, and sleep?

trade skills:
they should be influenced more by demigods. herofetes created by demi's should last longer, tea ceremonies should have a higher chance of proc, alchemy could have a chance of curing a bit more than usual, tailoring would have more prestige, forging could use essence to light the furnace, bookbinding could fit a little more on each page, herbalism would allow herbalists to access that nature skill, guard is it? Or a little more life is given in the room they are in. Poisonists can get a little bit more poison, artisans can make their goods last a longer or shorter amount of time once.

be able to keep one item from decaying with a daily essence loss?

* A power that increases esteem generation (+10% or so) and increases how much esteem you can hold (up to 1000 units?).

* A power that gives +5 reserves, and 5 power per month (essentially, half a powerplex gem, that can't be used as a powerstone-- and can't buy more than one).

* Power that slows the decay of all items in your possession by 50%.
- Please note that this affects items inside containers you are holding as well, so if your items are in a slow-decay box, they will be decaying at a 25%-of-normal rate.
(Number could be tweaked as well-- perhaps it could be just a 25% reduction base, that stacks with slow-decay-containers if it is believed that 50% would affect the container purchases too much)

I don't think that container sales really will do anything to the economy that can't be fixed by 15 minutes of bashing, really. I think that being able to aegis even some of your items would be cool.

* Demigod power that allows you to kill anyone who has not posted a Demigod power idea!

As part of the capping discussion, remove the Demi->Ascendant "cut essence down by 66%" thing. It's unnecessary at this point.

I am writing all of this down btw, I'm not ignoring you guys, I just don't have much to comment aside from, 'okay I'll write it down'.

But yeah, if we go with the cap idea, I'll probably ask for the 1/3 thing to be done away with. But I'm not convinced we should cap quite yet.

I'd like to hear what other people think regarding that though.

Xenthos:

* Demigod power that allows you to kill anyone who has not posted a Demigod power idea!

eep!

-Ability to self-destruct, rather than heartstop. Does damage to everyone in the room.
-Weakness inversion: A little complex, but, pair off the damage types:
Fire:Cold
Electric:Poison
Magic:Psychic
Exco:Divinus
Cutting:Blunt

The ability would let you move positively towards one of the types, but the paired type would move negatively. So, say you're an illithoid. You could decrease your magic malus, but it would also decrease your psychic resist. Or if you're a human, you could gain a poison resist, but would take on an equivalent electric malus.

Hi,

Talk here has died down quite a bit, so I'm gonna say that I'm gonna submit the special report by the end of next week. That's ample time.

I'd still like to encourage discussion on cap vs. non-cap, but I think I'm leaning towards no/soft cap. More discussion needed.

Regarding tiered weighting, I'm gonna go with a variation of Estarra's idea unless someone has a better idea. I'd like discussion here too.

Note: This is a placeholder post, I'm gonna edit in new powers as I get to them. Brb food.

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New stuff in italics

Demigods:

General Changes:
1. Add more powers - combat/utility/RP
2. Rework ephemeral system - allow demigods+ to permanently purchase powers that they don't have weight for, but make them inactive (aka ephemeral). Add in a command to make currently active powers to go ephemeral, no other restrictions here. All currently purchased powers will go into this list upon the change. All future powers purchased will go into this list.
3. Rework supernumerary system - allow the supernumerary command to activate individual demigod powers and put them into the 'active' list of demigod powers, taking up their alloted weight. Allow only one power to be activated (made supernumerary) per IC day
4. Add in "builds" of demigod powers, sets of powers that you can swap in and out as a whole instead of needing to swap individual powers in and out. You'll need to purchase this with either gold or essence. This will be subject to the one per IC day thing as well.
5. Review the costs/weight for the powers that currently exist, ascendant included.
6. Allow sealholders access to the domoth powers of their seal. They may only purchase one related power from the seal.
7. Introduce diminishing returns on essence gained past 75 million. Make essence gain prohibitively slow past 200 million.
8. Grant more weight to essence levels past 100 million. Add 10 weight at 100 mil, then add an additional 10 weight every 25 million, capping at an extra 50 weight total.
9. Remove the 2/3 essence loss from converting a demigod to a Vernal Ascendant.
10. Increase the essence worth of demigod corpses when offered to a divine. Something to the effect of the essence cost of offering someone levelled 99 + (current demigod essence -> god essence conversion)

Specific Changes:

Combat:

-Divine beast: Beast power, will improve its stats (hp/mana/ego), perhaps grant access to a special ability,to be decided.
-Additional damage attacks keyed to different stats - one damage attack based off Strength stat, one off Constitution, one off Charisma, one off Dexterity, etc.
-Increased endurance/willpower regen
-Ability to self-destruct, rather than heartstop. Does damage to everyone in the room.

Utility:

-New damage attacks that work only on denizens, one for each damage type corresponding to a domoth.

Example:
Death - the Icy Throne of Death - Cold
Justice - the Blind Throne of Justice - Blunt
Nature - the Amber Pool of Nature - Poison
Chaos - the Living Chair of Chaos - Psychic
Beauty - the Fragrant Spring of Beauty - Asphyxiation
Knowledge - the Crystalline Throne of Insight - Magic
Harmony - the Quintessence of Balance - Electric
Life - the Chalice of Eternity - Fire (ie. Flame of Life, Divine Spark etc etc)
War - the Steel Throne of Sharpest Swords - Cutting

*If feeling constructive, add different kinds of the same type of damage attack that uses a specific stat as its main source of power (ex: cold attack that uses strength, cold attack that uses charisma, etc). Can be slightly weaker than the average bashing attack.

-Ability that helps resist weather-related effects, passive.
-Quasi-Anchor: imbue essence in any location to return to it. People can't follow through with you, essence cost and not instant. Super milestone.
-Dessicate: destroys items in your inventory, so long as they have months left, no arties. Stopped by flame sigils.
-Ability to bestow a demifavour, buffing a player's stat by 1 for x minutes.
-Demigod power that copies commandant arties.
-Powers that mimic the commandant arties (related to squads)
-Ability to burn essence into reserve power (not active power, there's refresh power for that)
-Ability to extend the decay times on items for essence.
-Ability to feed essence to mounts for a temporary boost in hp/mana/ego.
-Ability to reduce the timer before a mount can be resummoned (due to death) in half OR an ability to rez a dead mount immediately once per IC day
-Ability that boosts the various regenerations (health/mana/ego) of beasts.
-Spend essence to increase the nutritive value of food (only food made by the Cooking tradeskill), but you, yourself, can't eat that food, it'll have no nutritive value for you.
-Spend essence to extend the available life of Artisan furniture.
-Spend essence to temporarily expand the capacity of a stockroom by a maximum of 100 slots. 1000 essence per slot, and the number of extra slots decays one per game-day. You can do it on any stockroom you can get into... so you can hire yourself out to expand stockrooms for pay.
-150m for a 0-weight tradeskill slot.
-25-50m for a skill that gives you aff-curing on a 10s tick; this goes away if you enter PC enemy territory / attack a player / are attacked by a player. (Basically a bashing utility, 10k to put up, if you do any of the above free things can't put it back up for 10mins)
-Ability to carve totems
-10-25m ability that lets you be invited to cartels on a 'probationary' level (can't read news, talk on the clan aether or be set to cartel head, and can only use designs that are flagged to be used by probationary members). Doesn't consume a cartel slot.
-Ability to not lose defs on logout / disconnect; they would be saved when your session is disconnected and re-applied to the next session when you reconnect (this data would be purged on the month change, so as to avoid unnecessary extra bloat).
-Increased critical rate.

-Power to imbue your beast's attack (BEAST ORDER ATTACK (target); it gives it a custom attack message (from a list of options).
*Potentially also increase the damage it does on its BEAST ORDER ATTACK damage type (not poison breath damage or anything else). Possibly only have it give that increased damage against NPCs.
*Alternative additional idea, have the custom attack messages change the damage type.

-Ability to imbue your beast with powers of persuasion, significantly increasing its effect on all influence types it has been trained with. Lasts an hour.
-Scry blocking skill, lasts 30 seconds, can be used once an IC day.

-PersonalBanker; you can access any bank from anywhere.
*Possibly require you to be in a bank still, but you can withdraw from Magnagora's accounts without going to Magnagora's banks.
*Works for any guilds or cartels you can access the bank accounts for.

-Ability to recharge items (possibly not energy cubes) using essence.
-Ability that lets you see what room a rift opens up to.
-A power that increases esteem generation (+10% or so) and increases how much esteem you can hold (up to 1000 units?)
-Ability to make one item of clothing permanent.
-Ability that boosts the transcendent tradeskill item/bonus, depending on the trade. Needs work.
-A power that gives +5 reserves, and 5 power per month (essentially, half a powerplex gem, that can't be used as a powerstone-- and can't buy more than one).

-Power that slows the decay of all items in your possession by 50%.
*Please note that this affects items inside containers you are holding as well, so if your items are in a slow-decay box, they will be decaying at a 25%-of-normal rate. Numbers can be tweaked.

-Power that saves your defenses whenever you die. I.E. If you die and reform, you won't have to spend minutes deffing up once more.

RP:

-Masquerade: make a demigod appear mortal (ex: male Trill instead of male Demigod) on honours/denizen greeting/whatever applicable
-Sparkles: convert essence into a harmless display of light and colour. Cost some small amount of essence per use.
-Untouched by age: Lets the Demi set their own age, a'la Shadowdance Penumbra
-More languages: allows the demigod to learn more languages, perhaps even a new demigod language.
-Additional divine/guild/org look/entrance/exit messages - expanded choiceentermessage/choicelook
-Ability to join your mind with another's and hear their tells/says
-Ability to customize what kind of demigod you are depending on your org. No mechanical change, just what you're called in honours/description. Example: Male Wyrden Demigod

I think you missed the delivery power, or was that argued against?

That was argued against by the admin saying there's already pets and dirigibles for that.